Lest we forget: the Dursley-Pedersen, which is reputedly one of Alex Moulton's inspirations in frame design. Scandinavian by design, but initially built in the UK, if I recall correctly.
Chris Beyer Overcast 'n Blustery Bloomfield, NJ
Philcycles@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 10/10/0 5:41:33 PM, richardsachs@juno.com writes:
>
> >regarding all this hellenic, etc. stuff...
> >my memory is foggy on some of this, but
> >didn't most of the non-trad 'affectations'
> >arise during those pre-war years when british
> >racing was banned on the open roads, relegated
> >to outlaw type time trials only at dusk and later?
> >does anybody recall this story...riders rode only
> >in black, no commercial marks on uniforms...OR
> >on frames. if i'm half on here, the explanation i'm
> >reaching for is that all the 'unusual' frames designs
> >we associate with this thread were born out of
> >a framebuilders yearning to have an identifiable
> >look, whether there were transfers or not, or whether
> >the sun was out or not.
> >i can't seeing any engineering gains in any of this
> >stuff. only decorative. regarding the hellenic stuff,
> >after the stay is joined someplace on/near the
> >seat tube, i can't figure out how it's additional length,
> >that part that travels to the top tube, adds, or does
> >anything at all.
> >i'm not an engineer. and i'm not old enough
> >to have lived through those pre-war years.
> >any thoughts?
> >e-RICHIE
>
> That's the story but I don't think it's true. I think it's rooted in the
> English love of the eccentric. Only England produced the range of unusual
> frame design we see-Flying Gate, Hetchins, Bates, Thanet, etc. Comments,
> Hilary?
> Phil brown