One other tidbit I might add. Giotto Cinelli stems, made in Florence do not have the popular enamel badge but rather a stamping that is similar to the more common cinelli stems of later years - "Cinelli-Firenze" inscribed within a circle. Good luck in finding one, a Holy Grail of Grails.
Ken Denny Boston, Massachusetts
>From: "Donald Dundee" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>To: email@example.com, firstname.lastname@example.org
>Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Cinelli stem timeline and questions?
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 13:43:45 EDT
>Giotto Cinelli produced Stems and bars as well as custom fitaments in his
>Florence shop until the early 1950's. My 1948 Legnano has a Cinelli-Firenze
>stem. I ahave seen only one other bike with this stem, a 1951/2 Masi. Cino
>moved to Milan in the late 40's. Headbadges on his cycles includes both the
>Milanese as well as Fiorentine coats-of-arms.
>>From: "Takao Noda" <email@example.com>
>>To: "Classic Bike List" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Cinelli stem timeline and questions?
>>Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:26:18 +0900
>>Chuck Schmidt wrote:
>> > Cino Cinelli (pro for seven years, won Tour of Lombardy and the
>> > Milan-San Remo) started making steel bars and stems in 1946.
>> > over the operation from his older brother Giotto, who made them
>> > WW II.
>>I found both Giotto Cinelli and Cino Cinelli participated in
>>Milano Show 1948. But on the list of Milano Show 1949 I found
>>only one Cinelli. Was Giotto Cinelli in Florence or in Milan?
>> Takao Noda
>> Hachioji, Tokyo, Japan