Re: [Classicrendezvous] Re: PBP-RAGBRAI etc.

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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:25:56 -0700
Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Re: PBP-RAGBRAI etc.
From: "Dave Feldman" <>
To: Jerry Moos <>, Ron Cooley <>

Even some American rides have history that would be cool to discuss here; the Los Angeles Wheelmen Grand Tour (double and triple centuries) have been run since the late 1940's--could this be the longest-running ride of its kind in the US? Any current LAW members on this list?

David Feldman Los Angeles Wheelman, 1969-1975 ----------
>From: Jerry Moos <>
>To: Ron Cooley <>
>Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Re: PBP-RAGBRAI etc.
>Date: Wed, Oct 25, 2000, 11:06 AM
>Well, Dale can step in if he likes, but this thread seems pretty "classic"
>to me in that
>PBP was first held in 1891. Also, today's Audax bikes are extremely
>similar to classic
>road bikes (at least those before 1970) in that they are capable of high
>performance but
>have fender clearance and eyelets for fender attachment. They are also
>usually steel,
>and often lugged, so if they aren't strictly "classic", they are certainly
>bikes, just as are Baylis, Sachs, Bohemian and Rivendell frames which have
>always been
>deemed appropriate to discuss here. Also, audax/ randonneur riding seems
>to me to be
>just the type of cycling activity reported and promoted by the great now
>departed French
>and British cycling magazines like Le Cyclist. Can't imagine anything more
>classic than
>discussion of participating in a cycling tradition over 100 years old.
>Jerry Moos
>Ron Cooley wrote:
>> I keep wanting to jump in on this thread and then stopping myself because
>it's not
>> really a VINTAGE BIKES topic (though I do my randonnee rides on a 79 Raleigh
>> supercourse). But I wanted to assure people that its possible (though hard) to
>> qualify for PBP in a short cycling season. Some of my fellow Prairie Randonneurs
>> from Saskatchewan Canada are veterans of 2 or 3 PBP rides, and we NEVER
>hit the road
>> (without studded tires) before April--more often the season begins in
>May. The trick
>> seems to be in doing the qualifier series the year before PBP (i.e. in
>2002), when
>> the schedule is not so compressed. That way the series in the year of
>the event is
>> more a matter of maintenance and confirmation than acquiring the
>necessary fitness.
>> I'm aiming for PBP 2003 and my plan is to do one longer ride each season.
> This year
>> I rode 200, 300 and 400 km brevets: next season I'll go for a 600 as
>well. I'd also
>> Love to do RAGBRAI, and maybe bring a few friends. Should we perhaps
>continue this
>> discussion off list?
>> Ron Cooley