Re: [Classicrendezvous] (no subject)

(Example: Bike Shops)

From: "Randy Nelson" <>
To: "Jonathan Cowden" <>, "Jerry Moos" <>
Cc: <>
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Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] (no subject)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:26:01 -0500

Further to the Bikesmith modification on my earlier email to the group...only the old ('74 according to Charlie Stephens and supported by the catalog description he sent me a copy of) Grand Jubile had the problem and neither the 77 Grand Record or 76 LeChampion required any change to work with modern deraileurs. The old Grand Jubile had the same deraileur problem Jonathan talks about...swinging into the cogs ..until the modification.

Jerry's bikes are of the same vintage as my newer ones and no problems with
them...only the older one.
Randy Nelson

----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Cowden
To: Jerry Moos
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] (no subject)

> Hi Jerry.
> What they told me is that the drop-out is
> missing the "stop" (the "b" stop??) which
> prevents the derailleur from swinging back
> too far. They showed me the action of a
> Shimano Deore on the bike stand and the derailleur
> would not work properly because it kept
> swinging back into the cogs.
> For some reason that Huret doesn't have this
> problem.
> Jon
> Jon Cowden
> Ithaca, NY
> On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Jerry Moos wrote:
> > Sounds like B.S. to me. My 1978 Motobecane Team Chanpion has Huret DOs and a
> > Simplex SLJ rear derailleur works just fine. The DO derailleur hanger also has
> > a notch like a Campy DO, so I'm pretty sure a Campy or any modern dreailleur
> > would work also, not surprising as Team Champions normally came with Campy
> > NR/SR. Either your shop guys don't know what they're talking about or the
> > Raleigh has a completely different Huret DO than my Motobecane (I have a circa
> > 1980 Bertin and an early 70's Mercier with the same type Huret DO as the
> > Motobecane). Anyone know what the shop guys are talking about?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry Moos
> >
> > Jonathan Cowden wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all. I recently got my Raleigh Super Tourer back from the bike shop.
> > > They told me that my "bike from hell" -- their words, not mine -- has
> > > Huret specific drop-outs and that nothing but a Huret would work unless a
> > > new drop-out were installed. Is this true? If so, does anyone know where
> > > I can find a Huret triple which will work with my bike? I happen to like
> > > my two-wheeled spawn from Satan but my commute home (all up-hill) would be a
> > > little easier if I had some granny gears to access.
> > >
> > > Jon Cowden
> > > Ithaca, NY