Re: [Classicrendezvous] (no subject) Actually Huret dropouts

(Example: Production Builders:Frejus)

Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:50:00 -0700
To: Jerry Moos <moos@penn.com>, Jonathan Cowden <jac33@tron.arts.cornell.edu>
From: "Joseph Bender-Zanoni" <jfbender@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] (no subject) Actually Huret dropouts
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20001027152200.013e4530@j.imap.itd.umich.edu>
References: <39F9CA5A.23FD3CEF@penn.com> <Pine.3.89.10010271442.B10620-0100000@tron.arts.cornell.edu>


For photos of one of these dropouts in action see my horribly slow loading auction at

http://ebay.com/<blah>

The material to stop the derailleur only comes as far toward the rear as you see. I guess everone got sick of the strange Huret and Simplex dropouts in the late '70s and they disappeared.

By the way this auction closes tonight. Someone asked the question whether it would have been wiser (monetarily) to part this bike out. I guess the only way to really answer that is to part out a duplicate. Anyway I was glad to get this bike more or less appropriately together, not take it apart.

Speaking of which does anyone have a Tipo straight lever rear skewer or just the lever itself. It turns out I am short one for this bike (ouch).

Another really mundane need. A Schwinn approved Normandy type rear hub (preferably 1977 date) as found on a Continental, Supersport etc. I will swap a similar Milremo (is that cooler or what), cash or whatever.

Joe Bender-Zanoni

At 03:22 PM 10/27/00 -0700, Joseph Bender-Zanoni wrote:
>There are two types of Huret dropout. One is pretty normal and the other
>Huret specific. Schwinn supplied a sheet metal adapter (and I have made
>copies) to allow mounting of non Huret der. on the dropout on '70s Sport
>Tourers and Superiors. I presume this was a Huret part.
>
>Another common option was to add a bit of brass and file. Also finding a
>Huret is not that hard.
>
>Joe Bender-Zanoni
>About to go riding in 75 degree A^2
>
>At 02:32 PM 10/27/00 -0400, Jerry Moos wrote:
>>Sounds like B.S. to me. My 1978 Motobecane Team Chanpion has Huret DOs and a
>>Simplex SLJ rear derailleur works just fine. The DO derailleur hanger
>also has
>>a notch like a Campy DO, so I'm pretty sure a Campy or any modern dreailleur
>>would work also, not surprising as Team Champions normally came with Campy
>>NR/SR. Either your shop guys don't know what they're talking about or the
>>Raleigh has a completely different Huret DO than my Motobecane (I have a
>circa
>>1980 Bertin and an early 70's Mercier with the same type Huret DO as the
>>Motobecane). Anyone know what the shop guys are talking about?
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Jerry Moos
>>
>>Jonathan Cowden wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all. I recently got my Raleigh Super Tourer back from the bike shop.
>>> They told me that my "bike from hell" -- their words, not mine -- has
>>> Huret specific drop-outs and that nothing but a Huret would work unless a
>>> new drop-out were installed. Is this true? If so, does anyone know where
>>> I can find a Huret triple which will work with my bike? I happen to like
>>> my two-wheeled spawn from Satan but my commute home (all up-hill) would
>be a
>>> little easier if I had some granny gears to access.
>>>
>>> Jon Cowden
>>> Ithaca, NY