Re: [Classicrendezvous] Le Tour history

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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 09:22:19 -0400
From: Jerry & Liz Moos <moos@penn.com>
To: KCTOMMY <KCTOMMY@email.msn.com>
CC: Tim & Jen <ktpr@mediaone.net>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Le Tour history
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The paper about Raleigh 1975-1999 which someone posted the link to a few days ago did state the Raleigh only built the bike for that one GC winner, though TI-Raleigh also won the team prize a couple of times.

Regards,

Jerry Moos

KCTOMMY wrote:
> I think Joop was the only man to win the Tour on a Raleigh, perhaps the only
> man to win on an English bike. Anyone know better?
>
> Tom Adams in dreary Kansas City.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim & Jen <ktpr@mediaone.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Date: Friday, October 27, 2000 10:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Le Tour history
>
> >I don't think you can mention great riders in the tour without adding
> >Indurain and Joop Zoetemelk. Zoetemelk rode 16 tours ('70-'86) and
> finished
> >everyone. His lowest place was 30th ('84) and in his first 12 Tours he
> never
> >finished lower then 8th. He only managed 1 win ('80) but also had 6-2nd
> >places (2 against Merckx and 3 against Hinault). He also collected 10
> stage
> >wins. All in all one of the tour greats.
> >
> >Of course Merckx gets my vote for best Tour rider, besides the five overall
> >wins, 34 stage wins: 8 in '70 and '74 and 6 in '69 and '72. The only man to
> >win Yellow, Green and Polka Dot in the same year('69).
> >
> >Tim (I'd rather be riding then moving) Carter
> >Amherst (soon to be Belchertown) MA
> >
> >PS Merckx and Zoetelmelk rode classic lightweights!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> And Gino Bartali won in 1938 and 1948, his prime years stolen by WWII.
> >I've
> >> often thought that if not for the war, Bartali would have won 5 or 6
> times
> >and
> >> would be ranked up there with Merckx, Coppi, Anquetil, and Hinault, where
> >he
> >> belongs. I thought it was outrageous the low ranking Cycle Sport gave
> >Bartali
> >> a while back in their "all-time greats" issue.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Jerry Moos