Re: [Classicrendezvous] (no subject)

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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:46:53 -0400
From: Jerry Moos <moos@penn.com>
To: Jonathan Cowden <jac33@tron.arts.cornell.edu>
CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] (no subject)
References: <Pine.3.89.10010271525.B10708-0100000@tron.arts.cornell.edu>


Ah, what it has is a Simplex-type dropout, no stop notch, and the hole isn't threaded. Huret may have made this type as well, but Huret DOs after about the mid 70s were usually of the Campy type. If you are running a double, a Simplex SLJ derailleur is the solution. Long cage Simplexes were also made if you have a triple, but they are more rare. I think a lot of Huret rear derailleur like the strange but excellent Duopar either worked with either type DO, as the Simplexes did, or had different versions for Simplex and Campy DOs.

Regards,

Jerry Moos

Jonathan Cowden wrote:
> Hi Jerry.
>
> What they told me is that the drop-out is
> missing the "stop" (the "b" stop??) which
> prevents the derailleur from swinging back
> too far. They showed me the action of a
> Shimano Deore on the bike stand and the derailleur
> would not work properly because it kept
> swinging back into the cogs.
>
> For some reason that Huret doesn't have this
> problem.
>
> Jon
>
> Jon Cowden
> Ithaca, NY
>
> On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Jerry Moos wrote:
>
> > Sounds like B.S. to me. My 1978 Motobecane Team Chanpion has Huret DOs and a
> > Simplex SLJ rear derailleur works just fine. The DO derailleur hanger also has
> > a notch like a Campy DO, so I'm pretty sure a Campy or any modern dreailleur
> > would work also, not surprising as Team Champions normally came with Campy
> > NR/SR. Either your shop guys don't know what they're talking about or the
> > Raleigh has a completely different Huret DO than my Motobecane (I have a circa
> > 1980 Bertin and an early 70's Mercier with the same type Huret DO as the
> > Motobecane). Anyone know what the shop guys are talking about?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry Moos
> >
> > Jonathan Cowden wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all. I recently got my Raleigh Super Tourer back from the bike shop.
> > > They told me that my "bike from hell" -- their words, not mine -- has
> > > Huret specific drop-outs and that nothing but a Huret would work unless a
> > > new drop-out were installed. Is this true? If so, does anyone know where
> > > I can find a Huret triple which will work with my bike? I happen to like
> > > my two-wheeled spawn from Satan but my commute home (all up-hill) would be a
> > > little easier if I had some granny gears to access.
> > >
> > > Jon Cowden
> > > Ithaca, NY
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >

Jonathan Cowden wrote:
> Hi Jerry.
>
> What they told me is that the drop-out is
> missing the "stop" (the "b" stop??) which
> prevents the derailleur from swinging back
> too far. They showed me the action of a
> Shimano Deore on the bike stand and the derailleur
> would not work properly because it kept
> swinging back into the cogs.
>
> For some reason that Huret doesn't have this
> problem.
>
> Jon
>
> Jon Cowden
> Ithaca, NY
>
> On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Jerry Moos wrote:
>
> > Sounds like B.S. to me. My 1978 Motobecane Team Chanpion has Huret DOs and a
> > Simplex SLJ rear derailleur works just fine. The DO derailleur hanger also has
> > a notch like a Campy DO, so I'm pretty sure a Campy or any modern dreailleur
> > would work also, not surprising as Team Champions normally came with Campy
> > NR/SR. Either your shop guys don't know what they're talking about or the
> > Raleigh has a completely different Huret DO than my Motobecane (I have a circa
> > 1980 Bertin and an early 70's Mercier with the same type Huret DO as the
> > Motobecane). Anyone know what the shop guys are talking about?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry Moos
> >
> > Jonathan Cowden wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all. I recently got my Raleigh Super Tourer back from the bike shop.
> > > They told me that my "bike from hell" -- their words, not mine -- has
> > > Huret specific drop-outs and that nothing but a Huret would work unless a
> > > new drop-out were installed. Is this true? If so, does anyone know where
> > > I can find a Huret triple which will work with my bike? I happen to like
> > > my two-wheeled spawn from Satan but my commute home (all up-hill) would be a
> > > little easier if I had some granny gears to access.
> > >
> > > Jon Cowden
> > > Ithaca, NY