the lake winter boots and the northwave winter boots work well. though i would offer your suggestion to buy one size large so there is plenty of room for wool socks. the northwave have a larger toe box so if you have wider feet i would suggest those. as for neoprene booties. after years of selling various booties we have finally settled on the side trak ones. they have a velcro closure in the rear which makes them very easy on and off. and i have a pair i have worn for three or four years and lots of off road and they are no worse for wear. and they are cheap compared to many. there is also a company that makes toe covers for toe clips and that might be side trak too. they actually seem to work quite well. i got several in for customers who use toe clips a couple of years ago and they all liked them. you might just have to experiment some. it seems what works well for some doesn't work at all for others. good luck and happy winter riding. sarah, somewhere, out there, in kansas kansas kansas...
>From: Joseph Bender-Zanoni <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>To: Jerry Moos <email@example.com>, Classic Rendezvous
>Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Cold weather commuting/training
>Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:52:01 -0800
>I put in 400 miles last January in Michigan, plus the daily commute. I find
>ordinary ski gloves adequite for my hands. I also have a range of Pearl
>Izumi gloves and mittens. I have a few tricks for my feet. The first step
>is a set of shoes that are just a bit looser than normal so that not only
>can you fit an extra layer of socks, but also the circulation is good. It
>is counterproductive if the additional insulation cuts off circulation. The
>second step is neoprene booties. Buy these carefully as I have found the
>heavy Pearl Izumi (Typhoon?) to be too thick and rub the crank arms. They
>are also very hard to get on and off. I use SPD pedals in the winter but I
>couldn't imagine heavy booties would work well with toe clips. E-mail me if
>you want a recommendation. Another step is a Gore-Tex inner sock as sold
>for hiking. This really prevents wind getting through the shoe. These
>liners are thin and do not contribute much to making the shoes too tight.
>I have never tried the special winter shoes. Anybody like them.
>At 09:01 AM 10/31/00 -0500, Jerry Moos wrote:
> >Having begun commuting to work in mid August for the first time in many
> >years, I'm enjoying it so much that I'm reluctant to give it up as
> >winter approaches in the NW Pennsylvania mountains. The temperature is
> >now typically about 30F when I leave home in the morning. The biggest
> >problem is keeping hands and feet warm. At 30F ski mittens and Thermax
> >cycling socks over wool cycling socks make things tolerable, though the
> >thumbs do get a bit cold. In the low to mid 20s F, though, I don't
> >think this will be adequate. What do other list members do for hands
> >and feet for subfreezing commuting/ winter training. I guy you CA guys
> >don't have this problem much.
> >Jerry Moos