Re: [Classicrendezvous] Tubular Tire Question

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Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 07:24:28 -0500
From: "Steve Freides" <sjf11@idt.net>
Organization: Friday's Computer, Inc.
To: Dave Feldman <feldmanbike@home.com>
CC: Larry Strung <strungl@pathcom.com>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Tubular Tire Question
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This hasn't been my experience with Fastack; my spares attach themselves to the point where I sometimes can't tell I didn't reglue them.

I've never experience Fastack drying out to the point of not adhering; while I haven't been using sewups forever, it's been about six or seven years and Fastack has always held firm for me, even though most of my bikes and tires are stored in an unheated garage, which I know is hard on the tire's rubber and can't be great for the glue, either.

-S-

Dave Feldman wrote:
>
> This is from doing safety checks at races: Deflate or inflate tire to about
> 75-80psi and try to twist off the rim. Another is the type of glue; Wolber
> and the red Clement/Vittoria "gutta" dry out slower than Fastack, I'd think
> that a 3 year old Fastack job would automatically be suspect as it dries
> completely whereas the tubular-specific glues are intended to not dry out so
> thoroughly such as staying a little tacky on that used tire you've got as a
> spare.
> My $0.02, here
> David Feldman
> ----------
> >From: "Larry Strung" <strungl@pathcom.com>
> >To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> >Subject: [Classicrendezvous] Tubular Tire Question
> >Date: Tue, Oct 31, 2000, 7:08 PM
> >
>
> >Hi Gang,
> >
> >Here is one for the group to debate, as I'm sure opinions would be varied.
> >
> >How does one judge the safety of a tubular tire? I am thinking in terms of
> >bikes we own that may be ridden only on occasion that have old tubulars on
> >them. When does the glue dry out and the tires become a danger to rider
> >(or followers) by potentially rolling off the rim? Some of my bikes only
> >get exercise on special sunny days. Tubulars on such bikes may have been
> >mounted 2 or 3 years ago. The tires are otherwise in fine shape, but what
> >is the risk?
> >
> >It certainly would take away the spontaneity if the safe routine would be
> >to re-glue the tires on these machines 24 hours prior to riding. Then
> >there is the additional problem (I've experienced with the Clement
> >Paris-Roubaix tires made in the far east in particular) where the base tape
> >can separate from the tire when removing it from the rim. Presumably that
> >indicates that the tire was still adequately adhered to the rim, but by
> >then it is too late.
> >
> >I have a vested interest in this discussion, as last summer I was taken
> >down in a track bike race when the rider whose wheel I was following rolled
> >a tub of his rear wheel. The resulting crash left me with a fractured hip.
> > You may imagine that I am a little gun-shy regarding tubulars at the
> >moment. I dearly love the ride of tubulars, and even like the ritual of
> >mounting them. However, with the winter maintenance season upon us, my
> >thoughts are towards converting some bikes from tubs to clinchers. Advice
> >from the experts on our list would be appreciated.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Larry Strung