[Classicrendezvous] Re: Speaking of Japanese collectors


Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:54:47 -0500
From: Jerry Moos <moos@penn.com>
To: Donald Dundee <rebour@hotmail.com>
CC: p6man@home.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
References: <LC7-LFD580moav8ObGE000007d7@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Classicrendezvous] Re: Speaking of Japanese collectors

Well, there is a flow of vintage-type stuff in this direction, including the Toyo-made Rivendell Atlantis. I was at first skeptical of this bike, thinking Grant had diluted his image by using too many different framebuilders, but everyone who has actually seen these seems to rave about them. That plus the Nitto stuff, the spectacular Toei frames (and by the way Minoura makes the only handlebar cage mounts I know of that are still in production) leads me to believe the appreciation for vintage type bikes is as great in Japan as anywhere in the world. If we can overcome the barriers of language and greatly different commercial systems that separate us, I think greater communication between classic bike fans in Japan, Europe and America can benefit us all. After all, while there are lots of porblems with the internet, its great virtue is in breaking down barriers.

I think the flow of somewhat rare classic components will continue to be one way as long as Japanese collectors continue to be willing to pay much higher prices, but that could change if those collectors gain knowledge of and access to more economical sources.

Regards,

Jerry Moos

Donald Dundee wrote:
> Survey: Has anyone on this list ever successfully obtained anything in the
> realm of vintage cycling items from Japan. It seems a one way street.... or
> should I say "the river flows in one direction".
>
> Ken Denny
>
> >From: Jerry Moos <moos@penn.com>
> >To: p6man <p6man@home.com>
> >CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Another high for collectible parts?
> >Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:10:18 -0500
> >
> >Wow, and it is used, too. And Kauzo and the other familiar Japanese
> >collectors
> >don't appear to be involved in this one, though Greg Parker had a go before
> >apparently deciding the price was a bit too rich. There was a Japanese
> >buyer for
> >the Mafac brakes, which would be expected as Takao has told us all how
> >popular the
> >old French stuff is in Japan. Maybe some of these Japanese collectors
> >should join
> >the list and research the stuff available from the classic bike vendors.
> >They
> >might save themselves a lot of money compared to what they sometimes pay on
> >eBay.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Jerry Moos
> >
> >p6man wrote:
> >
> > > How about the last of the first SR rear deraileurs......
> > >
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=485465623
> > >
> > > That's got to be another record.
> > >
> > > Duane Kennard
> > >
> > >
> > > on 11/7/00 5:06, OROBOYZ@aol.com at OROBOYZ@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mafac Tiger brake set in OK used shape... $255.00!
> > > >
> > > > Take a look...
> > > >
> > > >
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=470155401&ed=972278220
> > > >
> > > > Dale Brown