Re: [Classicrendezvous] Raleigh Pro & International quality lapses...

(Example: Framebuilders:Alex Singer)

Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 20:25:28 -0800
To: OROBOYZ@aol.com, losborn2@wvu.edu
From: "Joseph Bender-Zanoni" <jfbender@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Raleigh Pro & International quality lapses...
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <e8.c448f4b.273c9c54@aol.com>


Two times I have seen Internationals fail by pulling the top tube out of the the seat lug. The reason: unbrazed and held in merely by flux and paint! I love the bikes in their way but I think the production pressure was intense.

Joe

At 07:33 PM 11/9/00 EST, OROBOYZ@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 11/9/2000 11:39:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, moos@penn.com
>writes:
>
><< If the latter, are they usually free of the
> indifferent quality sometimes observed in other Raleigh models? >>
>
>I think they were all made at Carlton works, which particular facility, I
>couldn't say though.
>
>There certainly have been some rough Pros and Internationals.
>
>We refinished a Pro once that, upon removing the original factory paint, we
>found there had been a relatively large dent in the down tube that had been
>filled with brass and painted over!
>Internationals occasionally have the problem of yukky copper tacking (shared
>with GranSports, Competitions, and Super Courses) at the seat stay /seat lug
>"conjunction." These big blobby super heated copper deposits often lead to
>cracks and fissures in the seat stay caps and tubes...

>

>Dale Brown