Re: [Classicrendezvous] Raleigh Pro & International quality lapses...


From: "allstar" <allstar@gateway.net>
To: <OROBOYZ@aol.com>, <losborn2@wvu.edu>, "Joseph Bender-Zanoni" <jfbender@umich.edu>
Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <3.0.5.32.20001109202528.01210df0@j.imap.itd.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Raleigh Pro & International quality lapses...
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 21:58:46 -0500


I too have seen a Raleigh international separate at the top tube head tube will my friend was "just riding along". Same story, no brazing material at all! Jeff hutchinson Raleigh NC -----------------------------------------------------


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From: "Joseph Bender-Zanoni"
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Raleigh Pro & International quality


lapses...


> Two times I have seen Internationals fail by pulling the top tube out of
> the the seat lug. The reason: unbrazed and held in merely by flux and
> paint! I love the bikes in their way but I think the production pressure
> was intense.
>
> Joe
>
> At 07:33 PM 11/9/00 EST, OROBOYZ@aol.com wrote:
> >In a message dated 11/9/2000 11:39:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> moos@penn.com
> >writes:
> >
> ><< If the latter, are they usually free of the
> > indifferent quality sometimes observed in other Raleigh models? >>
> >
> >I think they were all made at Carlton works, which particular facility, I
> >couldn't say though.
> >
> >There certainly have been some rough Pros and Internationals.
> >
> >We refinished a Pro once that, upon removing the original factory paint, we
> >found there had been a relatively large dent in the down tube that had been
> >filled with brass and painted over!
> >Internationals occasionally have the problem of yukky copper tacking (shared
> >with GranSports, Competitions, and Super Courses) at the seat stay /seat lug
> >"conjunction." These big blobby super heated copper deposits often lead to
> >cracks and fissures in the seat stay caps and tubes...
> >
> >Dale Brown