Fw: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Re: [Sapim spokes

(Example: Framebuilders:Bernard Carré)

From: <richardsachs@juno.com>
To: oroboyz@aol.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:13:44 -0500
Subject: Fw: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Re: [Sapim spokes


dale... i saw your response to the earlier post. i resonded directly; now i will forward that reply to the list. i didn't want to clog up the mail. but now i do!! i gues you and i had seen the same article. e-RICHIE

here is the note i sent: is this guy's name... clouis salmon, or something like that-sam , for short? i read, abd still have here someplace, an article depicting sam at his task at the holdsworthy firm. he's 'still' building! that's wonderful news. AND, bill grey still woking on frames...what lore! it just doesn't get any better than this. e-RICHIE richardsachs@juno.com

On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:28:09 +0000 Mark Stevens <m.stevens@camb.linst.ac.uk> writes:
>Hi All, I just had some wheels built using Sapim "Laser "spokes .
>These are
>the closest to the classic 15/17 (1.4 - 1.8mm ) double butted I could
>find.
>They are double butted 1.5 - 2.0mm. I was pissed to find the word SAP
>stamped
>into the spoke just by the bend. The nipple end unbutted length is
>short too,
>only 10mm or so.
> 1 pair are Grunert 32 hole sprints onto L/F Campy track hubs for
>1957
>Gillott Fleur de Lis track iron. This bike has Campag 1"pitch
>chainwheel on
>early cranks,BBkt, h,set and steel seatpost with narrow rail Brooks
>saddle.
>Cinelli bar and stem and Weinmann 500 brake.
> Other pair are 26" Conloy Asps onto small flange Blumfield
>Duralites for a
>1951 Thanet Silverlight.
> I have since found an old Jamaican guy called Sam The Wheels. He's in
>70's.
>His house is crammed with wheels, spokes etc. He started building
>wheels at
>Claud Butlers in 1954. Went on to Holdsworths in the late 50's. He's
>built me
>a couple of other pairs using old style spokes. I can load the rims
>and hubs
>onto the Viscount, cycle 2 miles to Brixton , drop them off and pick
>up the
>wheels the next day.
> Frame repairs are done by Bill Gray who works in Colliers Wood. He
>is bus
>and Tube journey away at lunchtime. I get some funny looks carrying 2
>frames
>on a bus. Bill is 83. He began at Clauds in 1932. He reckons to have
>built
>2000 tandems. When Clauds went belly up in 1957 Bill worked freelance
>from
>George Strattons' shop on Easthill, Wandsworth.
> Why am I moving to the north of Scotland...?
>
>Mark Stevens in sunny London.