Re: [Classicrendezvous] Cinelli 1R (was Holdsworth Team Bikes)

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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:32:20 -0500
Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Cinelli 1R (was Holdsworth Team Bikes)

I'm a little late to this party :-), but according to my 1982-1983 Palo Alto catalog (p. 36),

"Cinelli Road Stem 1/Record This stem has a hidden binder bolt and is clamped by an interior wedge as shown in the diagram. Because of its design, the shortest extension made is 9.5 cm. Extensions available with 22.2 mm diameter: 9.5 cm., 10, 10.5, 11.0, 11.5, 12.0, 12.5, 13.0, 14.0. Cat. No. 36-203 $29.98 Extensions available with 22.0 mm (French) diameter: 10 cm., 11, 12, 13, 14. Cat. No. 36-204 $29.98"

There's a nice line drawing of the clamp mechanism; I could scan it but I have nowhere to post it right now. The clamp being buried in the body of the extension would certainly limit how close the bars could be brought to the quill.

The same page shows the "Cinelli Road Stem 1/A" in lengths from 7 cm to 14 cm.

Interesting they call them "1/Record" and "1/A"; elsewhere I've always seen "1R" and "1A".

Karl "Hey, I got answer one!" Frantz Sterling, Massachusetts --------------------------------------------------

On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:47:49 -0500 gregparker1 <> writes:
> In a message dated 11/19/00 4:05:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> writes:
> > The shortest Cinelli I've been able to find advertised is 10cm.
> > (International Pro Catelog, 1982)
> I believe I have an 85 mm old logo 1A.
> Pete Geurds
> Douglassville, Pa
> The 1As definitely went down to 70 mm, as that's my wife's size
> (in general, depending on TT length). I guess my recollection of
> the 1R was a little fuzzy. I've never seen a 1R shorter than 95,
> but it appears that they were made as short as 85 from what the
> other folks are saying.
> Greg "I stand corrected" Parker