[Classicrendezvous] Re: 1970's Peugeot UO8 - is it worth it?

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From: "Mary Pfeiffer" <maryp@pfeifferpframes.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <CATFOODxsPtIfONZmQS0000103d@catfood.nt.phred.org>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:30:14 -0500
Subject: [Classicrendezvous] Re: 1970's Peugeot UO8 - is it worth it?

I have a customer that is considering restoring a Peugeot UO8 (mid 1970's). He is uncertain about the value of it once it is restored and whether it would be worth the cost. He has already polished and rechromed the 3 arm cotter cranks, Mafac center pull brakes and the Simplex Nylon derailleurs. Can anyone give me any information or feedback I can pass on to him. I can easily reproduce the decals and yellow paint job.

Mary Pfeiffer
Custom Frames, Frame Painting and Repairs
maryp@pfeifferpframes.com
http://www.pfeifferpframes.com
864-639-1194 or 864-654-1194


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> 1. Re: More fun pics... NOT for sale! (Richard Rose)
> 2. Eugene sloans book / Olmo / Mystery Frame????????????? (brian blum)
> 3. Re: FS: Classic VAR truing stand (Robb Rasmussen)
> 4. Wanted: Atala Headbadge? (Chris Beyer)
> 5. recycling those old italian bikes (Aldo Ross)
> 6. "Cotters" for old T.A. cranks available again. (Sheldon Brown)
> 7. Re: Eugene sloans book / Olmo / Mystery Frame????????????? (Richard M Sachs)
> 8. Atala (brian blum)
> 9. RE: More e-bay comments (Charles Andrews)
> 10. Re: More fun pics... NOT for sale! (Jerry Moos)
> 11. Straightening bent chainrings (again) (Charles T. Young)
> 12. Re: Atala (PeterGrenader)
> 13. Re: Atala (Joseph Bender-Zanoni)
> 14. Re: BSA jamming tool (Joseph Bender-Zanoni)
> 15. Re: Atala (brian blum)
> 16. St. Louis area shop (philcycles@aol.com)
> 17. Re: Atala and "Schwinn Approved" plus
> commercial (Joseph Bender-Zanoni)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> From: "Richard Rose" <rmrose@toast.net>
> To: <OROBOYZ@aol.com>, <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] More fun pics... NOT for sale!
> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:08:16 -0500
>
> Wow, perhaps the pics are misleading but those sure do not look like they
> are in need of restoration! Look perfect as is - at least I would take them
> as is.
> Nice.
> Richard (the Holdsworth is my favorite), Rose
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <OROBOYZ@aol.com>
> To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 1:48 PM
> Subject: [Classicrendezvous] More fun pics... NOT for sale!
>
>
> > Three beauties came in the same afternoon. Shown sitting so cool on the
> CDO
> > counter...Joy joy!
> >
> > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1273125&a=10218875
> >
> > "Why, Thanks for looking" (Arggh! I hate that, don't you?)
> >
> > Dale Brown
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> From: "brian blum" <brianblum@hotmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:19:40
> Subject: [Classicrendezvous] Eugene sloans book / Olmo / Mystery Frame?????????????
>
> I picked up an old repainted bike last night. It had a seat cluster simular
> to the bike pictured on the back cover of the original "The Complete Book of
> Bicycling" (it was a blue frame only the rear half shown). The bike I
> obtained has brazed on cable stops so it has no housing on the top tube. It
> also has a double slotted BB shell, Campy Dropouts, Short rake fork with a
> crown profile simular to the Raleigh International with the long middle
> tougue. Very short lugs sockets hybid head lugs a hybrid of Colnago lugs
> with extra details (morphing toward Nervex Pro Lugs). I could not resist. It
> was fitted with non original SR frt and rear derailleurs, record crank,
> brakes and H/S, Simplex retrofriction levers and jap assorted. 70mm BB
> fluted chainstays. What could it be? Owner said some had speculated Olmo.
> And what is the gorgeous Blue bike on The Complete Book of Bicycling? JPEGS
> WILL eventually come.
> ____________________________________________________________________________ _________
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> From: "Robb Rasmussen" <bikeshop@ispchannel.com>
> To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] FS: Classic VAR truing stand
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:32:28 -0600
>
> Classic listers.
>
> Two VAR truing stands have been our everyday
> users (one is the cheaper model) in my
> store since 1977.
>
> Robb Rasmussen
> Sioux River Cyclery
> 501 Main Ave
> Brookings, SD 57006 http://www.501main.com
>
> : Classic VAR truing stand
>
>
> > Classicists,
> > I came into a beautiful, old thing, perfectly functional and
> > once belonging to a Mavic Service Course mechanic who said it
> > was just perfect at its task. It's a VAR truing stand with
> > twin adjustments, made of steel. If you know what this is,
> > you know it is a thing to behold and to use.
> > $200 is the asking price.
> > I hope to have pictures soon but I thought I would mention
> > it here in case anyone would like first dibs before it goes
> > to auction.
> > I'll be selling it for palBrett so there is nothing in
> > this for me but to pass along a fine old tool.
> >
> > Douglas Brooks
> > Canandaigua, NY
> >
> > _______________________________________________
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 15:28:38 -0500
> From: Chris Beyer <beyerc@mailserver.volvo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [Classicrendezvous] Wanted: Atala Headbadge?
>
> Hey, Y'all:
>
> A friend of mine has a bike which he dearly loves (it actually fits
> him!) which the seller stated to be an Atala, although it has been
> repainted and is devoid of all markings. Martin would like to find a
> headbadge. Anone in possession of one who would like to part with it
> is encouraged to reply to me off-list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris Beyer
> Snow Tomorrow (!!?) in Bloomfield, NJ
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> From: "Aldo Ross" <swampmtn@siscom.net>
> To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 15:59:48 -0500
> Subject: [Classicrendezvous] recycling those old italian bikes
>
> (I found this on the Pro Cycling website - I'd love to sort through those
> trailers each night! Aldo Ross)
>
> .....So can an old bicycle really contribute to improving the infrastructure
> of an entire nation? Perhaps not, but this is the stated brief of an
> ingenious humanitarian initiative recently unveiled by Italian sport's
> newspaper "la Gazzetta dello Sport"" in collaboration with the 2001 Giro d'
> Italia.
>
> At the end of the international cycling season a collection of used bicycles
> donated by cycling fans, pundits and even professional riders will be
> dispatched to Burkina Faso, where they will serve as a means of transport
> for instructors and community workers in rural areas. The Giro d'Italia will
> be the centrepiece of the project, with spectators invited to consign used
> machines to "Rebicycling" trailers stationed in hospitality villages on
> every stage of the race.
>
> "Rebicycling" is the brainchild of renowned Italian explorer and navigator
> Giovanni Soldini, whose rusting old Bianchi will be among the first
> contributions to the charity when it is officially launched at the Milan
> San-Remo race next spring:
>
> "I think that it's a fantastic idea, and my old bike is ready to be donated!
> I just hope that it be useful to someone, or at least make someone happy."
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 15:45:35 -0500
> To: internet-bob@bikelist.org (INTERNET BOB), classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> From: Sheldon Brown <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com>
> Subject: [Classicrendezvous] "Cotters" for old T.A. cranks available again.
>
> Early T.A. cranks used unusual teardrop-shaped axles and special
> bolts/bushings that resembled cotter pins, but were not the same as
> cotter pins. These "jeux de grain" bolt sets have been unavailable
> for several years, but I have arranged to get T.A. to do another
> production run. These are now in stock, for those who need them.
>
> http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/french-cranks.html#cotters
>
> Sheldon "Weird Stuff" Brown
> Newtonville, Massachusetts
> +------------------------------------+
> | France, France...if not for you, |
> | the world would be alone! |
> | --Victor Hugo |
> +------------------------------------+
> Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
> Phone 617-244-9772, 617-244-1040, FAX 617-244-1041
> http://harriscyclery.com
> Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
> http://captainbike.com
> Useful articles about bicycles and cycling
> http://sheldonbrown.com
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> To: brianblum@hotmail.com
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:06:09 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Eugene sloans book / Olmo / Mystery Frame?????????????
> From: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com>
>
> if i recall, it was an atala 101.
> e-RICHIE
>
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:19:40 "brian blum" <brianblum@hotmail.com> writes:
> > I picked up an old repainted bike last night. It had a seat cluster
> > simular
> > to the bike pictured on the back cover of the original "The Complete
> > Book of
> > Bicycling" (it was a blue frame only the rear half shown). The bike
> > I
> > obtained has brazed on cable stops so it has no housing on the top
> > tube. It
> > also has a double slotted BB shell, Campy Dropouts, Short rake fork
> > with a
> > crown profile simular to the Raleigh International with the long
> > middle
> > tougue. Very short lugs sockets hybid head lugs a hybrid of Colnago
> > lugs
> > with extra details (morphing toward Nervex Pro Lugs). I could not
> > resist. It
> > was fitted with non original SR frt and rear derailleurs, record
> > crank,
> > brakes and H/S, Simplex retrofriction levers and jap assorted. 70mm
> > BB
> > fluted chainstays. What could it be? Owner said some had
> > speculated Olmo.
> > And what is the gorgeous Blue bike on The Complete Book of
> > Bicycling? JPEGS
> > WILL eventually come.
> >
> _________________________________________________________________________
> ____________
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> From: "brian blum" <brianblum@hotmail.com>
> To: richardsachs@juno.com
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:29:44
> Subject: [Classicrendezvous] Atala
>
> That was my next question, why are there no Atala fans? They were quite
> popular back in the late 60's was the quality not as good as Bianchi? I
> liked the chrome.
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com>
> To: brianblum@hotmail.com
> CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Eugene sloans book / Olmo / Mystery
> Frame?????????????
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:06:09 -0500
>
> if i recall, it was an atala 101.
> e-RICHIE
>
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:19:40 "brian blum" <brianblum@hotmail.com> writes:
> > I picked up an old repainted bike last night. It had a seat cluster
> > simular
> > to the bike pictured on the back cover of the original "The Complete
> > Book of
> > Bicycling" (it was a blue frame only the rear half shown). The bike
> > I
> > obtained has brazed on cable stops so it has no housing on the top
> > tube. It
> > also has a double slotted BB shell, Campy Dropouts, Short rake fork
> > with a
> > crown profile simular to the Raleigh International with the long
> > middle
> > tougue. Very short lugs sockets hybid head lugs a hybrid of Colnago
> > lugs
> > with extra details (morphing toward Nervex Pro Lugs). I could not
> > resist. It
> > was fitted with non original SR frt and rear derailleurs, record
> > crank,
> > brakes and H/S, Simplex retrofriction levers and jap assorted. 70mm
> > BB
> > fluted chainstays. What could it be? Owner said some had
> > speculated Olmo.
> > And what is the gorgeous Blue bike on The Complete Book of
> > Bicycling? JPEGS
> > WILL eventually come.
> >
> _________________________________________________________________________
> ____________
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Classicrendezvous mailing list
> > Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________ _________
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> From: Charles Andrews <chasa@classicalradio.org>
> To: "'classicrendezvous@bikelist.org'" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: RE: [Classicrendezvous] More e-bay comments
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 12:52:51 -0800
>
> Can someone tell us what the factory-specified maximum-tooth-count for the
> rear cog is for the Superbe?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Charles Andrews
> Los Angeles
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joseph Bender-Zanoni [mailto:jfbender@umich.edu]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:07 AM
> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Subject: [Classicrendezvous] More e-bay comments
> >
> >
> > This first generation Superbe is arguably the finest
> > derailleur ever made.
> > Who says there are no deals out there - $9.95 in pretty good
> > shape. Alloy
> > hanger bolt, slant pantograph, more rugged than a Cyclone and
> > without the
> > pain in the neck cable routing.
> >
> > These are not all that common either.
> >
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>
> Joe
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:35:08 -0500
> From: Jerry Moos <moos@penn.com>
> To: OROBOYZ@aol.com
> CC: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] More fun pics... NOT for sale!
>
> Incoming restorations? Why would these need restoration?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
>
> OROBOYZ@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Three beauties came in the same afternoon. Shown sitting so cool on the CDO
> > counter...Joy joy!
> >
> > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1273125&a=10218875
> >
> > "Why, Thanks for looking" (Arggh! I hate that, don't you?)
> >
> > Dale Brown
> >
> > _______________________________________________
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> From: "Charles T. Young" <youngc@netreach.net>
> To: "Classicrendezvous" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:30:35 -0500
> Subject: [Classicrendezvous] Straightening bent chainrings (again)
>
> Folks:
>
> I apparently deleted the advice given recently on how to straighten bent =
> chainrings. I've a recently acquired Italvega with a Stronglight 49D =
> crankset. I'd like to take a shot at straightening the chainrings before =
> looking for replacements. I'd appreciate it if someone could forward the =
> tips previously provided. Off list is fine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie (in rainy weather with a bit of late season lightning) West =
> Chester, PA
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:43:34 -0700
> From: PeterGrenader <peterg@ixpres.com>
> To: brian blum <brianblum@hotmail.com>
> CC: richardsachs@juno.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Atala
>
> I liked the head angle - 75 DEGREES, bay-bay
>
> peter
> LA
>
> brian blum wrote:
>
> > That was my next question, why are there no Atala fans? They were quite
> > popular back in the late 60's was the quality not as good as Bianchi? I
> > liked the chrome.
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com>
> > To: brianblum@hotmail.com
> > CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Eugene sloans book / Olmo / Mystery
> > Frame?????????????
> > Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:06:09 -0500
> >
> > if i recall, it was an atala 101.
> > e-RICHIE
> >
> > On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:19:40 "brian blum" <brianblum@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > I picked up an old repainted bike last night. It had a seat cluster
> > > simular
> > > to the bike pictured on the back cover of the original "The Complete
> > > Book of
> > > Bicycling" (it was a blue frame only the rear half shown). The bike
> > > I
> > > obtained has brazed on cable stops so it has no housing on the top
> > > tube. It
> > > also has a double slotted BB shell, Campy Dropouts, Short rake fork
> > > with a
> > > crown profile simular to the Raleigh International with the long
> > > middle
> > > tougue. Very short lugs sockets hybid head lugs a hybrid of Colnago
> > > lugs
> > > with extra details (morphing toward Nervex Pro Lugs). I could not
> > > resist. It
> > > was fitted with non original SR frt and rear derailleurs, record
> > > crank,
> > > brakes and H/S, Simplex retrofriction levers and jap assorted. 70mm
> > > BB
> > > fluted chainstays. What could it be? Owner said some had
> > > speculated Olmo.
> > > And what is the gorgeous Blue bike on The Complete Book of
> > > Bicycling? JPEGS
> > > WILL eventually come.
> > >
> > _________________________________________________________________________
> > ____________
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Classicrendezvous mailing list
> > > Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > > http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous
> >
> > ____________________________________________________________________________ _________
> >
> > _______________________________________________
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:40:34 -0800
> To: "brian blum" <brianblum@hotmail.com>, richardsachs@juno.com
> From: Joseph Bender-Zanoni <jfbender@umich.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Atala
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>
> I think top level Atalas and Bottechias were OK bikes but I remember
> swearing over the low line bikes with things like chainlines from hell that
> would throw chains with any possible adjustment. My first impressions of
> lower line Italian bikes came from these and I summarized the attitude as
> "if you can't afford a good bike then go to hell".
>
> The concept from trademark law is tarnishment. Basically they tarnished
> their own brand because of the quality spread across the line of bikes.
>
> Even worse was Chiorda. I have never heard of a Chiorda fan but the top
> bike was all Campy etc.
>
> Joe Bender-Zanoni
>
>
>
> At 10:29 PM 11/29/00, brian blum wrote:
> >That was my next question, why are there no Atala fans? They were quite
> >popular back in the late 60's was the quality not as good as Bianchi? I
> >liked the chrome.
> >
> >
> >----Original Message Follows----
> >From: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com>
> >To: brianblum@hotmail.com
> >CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Eugene sloans book / Olmo / Mystery
> > Frame?????????????
> >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:06:09 -0500
> >
> >if i recall, it was an atala 101.
> >e-RICHIE
> >
> >On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:19:40 "brian blum" <brianblum@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > I picked up an old repainted bike last night. It had a seat cluster
> > > simular
> > > to the bike pictured on the back cover of the original "The Complete
> > > Book of
> > > Bicycling" (it was a blue frame only the rear half shown). The bike
> > > I
> > > obtained has brazed on cable stops so it has no housing on the top
> > > tube. It
> > > also has a double slotted BB shell, Campy Dropouts, Short rake fork
> > > with a
> > > crown profile simular to the Raleigh International with the long
> > > middle
> > > tougue. Very short lugs sockets hybid head lugs a hybrid of Colnago
> > > lugs
> > > with extra details (morphing toward Nervex Pro Lugs). I could not
> > > resist. It
> > > was fitted with non original SR frt and rear derailleurs, record
> > > crank,
> > > brakes and H/S, Simplex retrofriction levers and jap assorted. 70mm
> > > BB
> > > fluted chainstays. What could it be? Owner said some had
> > > speculated Olmo.
> > > And what is the gorgeous Blue bike on The Complete Book of
> > > Bicycling? JPEGS
> > > WILL eventually come.
> > >
> >_________________________________________________________________________
> >____________
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> >
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
> __________
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:47:22 -0800
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> From: Joseph Bender-Zanoni <jfbender@umich.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] BSA jamming tool
> <20001128.154149.-190351.5.richardsachs@juno.com>
>
> The seller from New Zealand has a second BSA jamming tool if anyone wants
> one. Figure $10 shipped.
>
> Joe
>
> At 09:19 PM 3/28/00 -0800, Joseph Bender-Zanoni wrote:
> >I was really pleased to get this BSA "spanner", AKA jamming tool, for
> >madisons and six-days.
>
>http://ebay.com/<blah> 58
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> From: "brian blum" <brianblum@hotmail.com>
> To: jfbender@umich.edu
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Atala
> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:11:34
>
> Actually I have a fully Campagnolo Chiorda that is a very nice riding and
> well put together bike. Somehow the Paramounts survived the Continentals and
> Varsities that was probably 90% of there sales volume for Schwinn in the
> early 70's???? BrIANCHIlly in Berkeley
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Joseph Bender-Zanoni <jfbender@umich.edu>
> To: "brian blum" <brianblum@hotmail.com>, richardsachs@juno.com
> CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Atala
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:40:34 -0800
>
> I think top level Atalas and Bottechias were OK bikes but I remember
> swearing over the low line bikes with things like chainlines from hell that
> would throw chains with any possible adjustment. My first impressions of
> lower line Italian bikes came from these and I summarized the attitude as
> "if you can't afford a good bike then go to hell".
>
> The concept from trademark law is tarnishment. Basically they tarnished
> their own brand because of the quality spread across the line of bikes.
>
> Even worse was Chiorda. I have never heard of a Chiorda fan but the top
> bike was all Campy etc.
>
> Joe Bender-Zanoni
>
>
>
> At 10:29 PM 11/29/00, brian blum wrote:
> >That was my next question, why are there no Atala fans? They were quite
> >popular back in the late 60's was the quality not as good as Bianchi? I
> >liked the chrome.
> >
> >
> >----Original Message Follows----
> >From: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com>
> >To: brianblum@hotmail.com
> >CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Eugene sloans book / Olmo /
> Mystery
> > Frame?????????????
> >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:06:09 -0500
> >
> >if i recall, it was an atala 101.
> >e-RICHIE
> >
> >On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:19:40 "brian blum" <brianblum@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > I picked up an old repainted bike last night. It had a seat cluster
> > > simular
> > > to the bike pictured on the back cover of the original "The Complete
> > > Book of
> > > Bicycling" (it was a blue frame only the rear half shown). The bike
> > > I
> > > obtained has brazed on cable stops so it has no housing on the top
> > > tube. It
> > > also has a double slotted BB shell, Campy Dropouts, Short rake fork
> > > with a
> > > crown profile simular to the Raleigh International with the long
> > > middle
> > > tougue. Very short lugs sockets hybid head lugs a hybrid of Colnago
> > > lugs
> > > with extra details (morphing toward Nervex Pro Lugs). I could not
> > > resist. It
> > > was fitted with non original SR frt and rear derailleurs, record
> > > crank,
> > > brakes and H/S, Simplex retrofriction levers and jap assorted. 70mm
> > > BB
> > > fluted chainstays. What could it be? Owner said some had
> > > speculated Olmo.
> > > And what is the gorgeous Blue bike on The Complete Book of
> > > Bicycling? JPEGS
> > > WILL eventually come.
> > >
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> Message: 16
> From: Philcycles@aol.com
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:12:53 EST
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [Classicrendezvous] St. Louis area shop
>
> Some weeks ago there was mention of an excellent shop in the St. Louis area,
> perhaps a Mercian importer. Could someone email me with the name?
> Phil Brown
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> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:24:22 -0800
> To: "brian blum" <brianblum@hotmail.com>
> From: Joseph Bender-Zanoni <jfbender@umich.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Atala and "Schwinn Approved" plus
> commercial
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>
> Ah but a Varsity is a wonderful thing in terms of quality. Consistent,
> reliable. It worked. See Sheldon's site about the electroformed frame
> process. The consistency of the Schwinn product and what it stood for
> across the line is remarkable.
>
> My point about the Chiorda is that you have the good one and it is fine,
> but the lesser bikes were painful and they hurt their image.
>
> And now a special "Schwinn Approved" offering. Toe straps. White. NOS (some
> have a little rust on the buckles. Made in Italy. Schwinn Sprint $2.
> Schwinn Approved $4. Plus shipping ($1-$3.20). Delivery may slide to January.
>
> Joe
>
> At 12:11 AM 11/30/00, brian blum wrote:
> >Actually I have a fully Campagnolo Chiorda that is a very nice riding and
> >well put together bike. Somehow the Paramounts survived the Continentals and
> >Varsities that was probably 90% of there sales volume for Schwinn in the
> >early 70's???? BrIANCHIlly in Berkeley
> >
> >
> >----Original Message Follows----
> >From: Joseph Bender-Zanoni <jfbender@umich.edu>
> >To: "brian blum" <brianblum@hotmail.com>, richardsachs@juno.com
> >CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Atala
> >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:40:34 -0800
> >
> >I think top level Atalas and Bottechias were OK bikes but I remember
> >swearing over the low line bikes with things like chainlines from hell that
> >would throw chains with any possible adjustment. My first impressions of
> >lower line Italian bikes came from these and I summarized the attitude as
> >"if you can't afford a good bike then go to hell".
> >
> >The concept from trademark law is tarnishment. Basically they tarnished
> >their own brand because of the quality spread across the line of bikes.
> >
> >Even worse was Chiorda. I have never heard of a Chiorda fan but the top
> >bike was all Campy etc.
> >
> >Joe Bender-Zanoni
> >
> >
> >
> >At 10:29 PM 11/29/00, brian blum wrote:
> > >That was my next question, why are there no Atala fans? They were quite
> > >popular back in the late 60's was the quality not as good as Bianchi? I
> > >liked the chrome.
> > >
> > >
> > >----Original Message Follows----
> > >From: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com>
> > >To: brianblum@hotmail.com
> > >CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > >Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Eugene sloans book / Olmo /
> >Mystery
> > > Frame?????????????
> > >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:06:09 -0500
> > >
> > >if i recall, it was an atala 101.
> > >e-RICHIE
> > >
> > >On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:19:40 "brian blum" <brianblum@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > > I picked up an old repainted bike last night. It had a seat cluster
> > > > simular
> > > > to the bike pictured on the back cover of the original "The Complete
> > > > Book of
> > > > Bicycling" (it was a blue frame only the rear half shown). The bike
> > > > I
> > > > obtained has brazed on cable stops so it has no housing on the top
> > > > tube. It
> > > > also has a double slotted BB shell, Campy Dropouts, Short rake fork
> > > > with a
> > > > crown profile simular to the Raleigh International with the long
> > > > middle
> > > > tougue. Very short lugs sockets hybid head lugs a hybrid of Colnago
> > > > lugs
> > > > with extra details (morphing toward Nervex Pro Lugs). I could not
> > > > resist. It
> > > > was fitted with non original SR frt and rear derailleurs, record
> > > > crank,
> > > > brakes and H/S, Simplex retrofriction levers and jap assorted. 70mm
> > > > BB
> > > > fluted chainstays. What could it be? Owner said some had
> > > > speculated Olmo.
> > > > And what is the gorgeous Blue bike on The Complete Book of
> > > > Bicycling? JPEGS
> > > > WILL eventually come.
> > > >
> >
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> > >
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