Re: [CR] Campag. Brake Cables

(Example: Framebuilders:Cecil Behringer)

Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 11:49:12 -0800
From: "Marc Boral" <mbikealive@earthlink.net>
To: Tom Dalton <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com>
CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Campag. Brake Cables
References: <20001204173157.15814.qmail@web903.mail.yahoo.com>


I respectfully disagree. All the NOS sets of Syncro (debut in '87) I have, come with the thinner stainless cables. Syncro II debuted in '88, a year after Chorus.

Marc Boral

Tom Dalton wrote:
> As I recall, the first generation Syncro levers used
> the heavy cables and the Snycro II's used the skinny
> cables. Because the switch to an index-appropriate
> cable on the Syncro II was the driving force behind
> the change, it is the first appearence of those
> shifters that you need to date. I realize that I am
> answering your question with another question, but it
> should be much easier to determine when Campy
> introduced a new indexing system than a new type of
> cable.
>
> My best guess on the intro of the Syncro II would be
> that it coincided with the intro of Chorus. I think I
> remember first seeing ad for Chorus in the fall of
> 1987.
>
> As a point of general info to all list subscribers I
> offer the following, and request correction if I am in
> error:
>
> The oldest Campy cables in my stash are made up of
> heavy strands wound at a shollow angle relative to the
> length of the wire. The surface of the cable is
> somewhat rough. The head is stamped with a
> C-in-diamond logo on top.
>
> The next newer cables are have the same marking and
> are the same thickness, but the starnds are finer and
> are wound at a steeper angle (they wind around more
> times). The suface is smoother. I think these came
> around in the early 80's, but I have no real basis for
> that assertion.
>
> The next cables are identical to those above, but the
> logo is on the side of the head and is just a plain C.
> I think of these as early C-record cables, because
> they are what came with the retrofrictions. That puts
> them at 1985/86 to 1989 or so.
>
> As I mentioned above, I think the first thin cables
> came with the first Syncro II's at the time of the
> Chorus intro. If I'm wrong here it is likely that
> they came out later when the large-wrap Syncro's came
> out to operate double pivot (Campag-nono?) rear ders
> in 1990.
>
> The only subsequent change that I have noticed is the
> revision of the C logo on the side of the cable end to
> a "C-in-circle" logo. This is an Ergopower (CTI?)
> change that took place around 1994 (best quess).
>
> Any better info on my dates?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Dalton
>
> P.S. sorry for straying into the 1990's but I was
> hoping to provide an overview of my observations. The
> most relevant question to this group might be when the
> change from the first to the second of the
> above-referenced designs took place.
>
> Reid <bob.reid1@virgin.net> wrote:
> > I'm sure there is an instant answer to this one (but
> > I just don't know it)
> >
> > At what point in time did Campagnolo change their
> > gear cables from the old
> > heavyweight type (1.56 mm dia) to the more "modern"
> > 1.2 mm cable ? for down
> > tube levers.
> >
> > Bob Reid
> > Stonehaven
> > Scotland
> >
> > http://www.wheelscycles.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> >
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