could Peugeot track iron, like many other small-run, high-quality French
racing bikes, have been built by CNC?
David Feldman
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>From: "don andersen" <peugeotpx10@hotmail.com>
>To: jfbender@umich.edu, davidg@iag.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [CR]Peugeot track bike
>Date: Thu, Dec 14, 2000, 7:00 AM
>
>David and all, I have seen only one Peugeot track bike and I will agree with
>Joseph on the uncharacteric quality. It too had Campy ends with beautiful
>lug work. I spoke with David some time ago about a Peugeot plant tour taken
>by an east cost shop owner and Peugeot nut. He did happen to mention that
>he did not see any track bikes hanging in the "Prestige Shop". That is not
>to say that they did not braze any, just that there were none around at the
>time of his two visits. Custom Peugeot's were also brazed elswhere, I
>assume other custom builders in France were sub-contracted. Back in the
>day, Peugeot used to boast about the fact that the bikes sold in stores were
>the same ones the Team raced. True? Untrue? There were fillet brazed,
>Team-issue Peugeots not seen on the plant tours either. Interesting, and
>probably pointless note, if any of you have the "Intimate Portraits of the
>Tour de France" book; look at the Bernard Thevenet chapter. There is a
>picture of him laying on the ground after his 1972 fall. Behind him is a
>picture of his Peugeot, apparently held up by a fan or a mechanic. Look
>closely at the rear dropouts and you will notice fender eyelets. A team
>mechanic could have filed them, could they not?
>
>Don Andersen
>
>
>>I do not know about this designation but I have seen these and they are
>>quite a nice track bike. Real track bike values depend greatly on proximity
>>to velodromes. A Campy track gruppo has a very fixed value. Used it cannot
>>be worth less than $300 for the gruppo I would say. Some trackie out there
>>would jump at this bike for $500 easy. And I have seen these bikes go for
>>more than that. This is interesting because I am valuing this bike on a
>>utilitarian basis rather than a collector basis.
>>
>>Just to pick on the Francophiles you will notice that when the going gets
>>tough (track use) the components go Campy. And even Campy submitted to
>>getting stuff NJS approved for Japanese Keirin. USA collectors looking for
>>rarities should try and find NJS approved Campy.
>>
>>Joe Bender-Zanoni
>>It's still snowing in Ann Arbor!
>>
>>At 04:42 PM 12/13/00 -0500, David Goerndt wrote:
>> >I received this inquiry about a Peugeot track bike. I have no info on
>>track
>> >bikes built by Peugeot so I was wondering if anyone has any info.
>> >
>> ><"I have a 1972 peugeot PX12 track bike. The bike is all campy including
>> >ends
>> ><and crank(1/2 inch pitch), reynolds 531 double butted, white in perfect
>> ><condition with Mavic rims and campy hubs. Do you have any info on this
>> >model
>> ><? Does it have any value?"
>> >
>> >The designation sounds wrong for a track bike, even a road bike of that
>> >vintage.
>> >
>> >David Goerndt