Re: SV: [CR] Suicide Levers

(Example: Production Builders:Peugeot:PX-10LE)

Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 14:03:57 -0800
To: Jerry & Liz Moos <moos@penn.com>, Olof Stroh <olof.stroh@hem.utfors.se>
From: "Joseph Bender-Zanoni" <jfbender@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: SV: [CR] Suicide Levers
Cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <3A3CC31B.7D5E6347@penn.com>
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I vaguely remember that a third party did make a replacement pin that fit the Campy lever and had the appropriate extention for the safety lever! Also note that the Shimano versions were not an "add-on" and did not decrease the potential lever travel.

Joe Bender-Zanoni Once again snowing in Ann Arbor

At 08:43 AM 12/17/00 -0500, Jerry & Liz Moos wrote:
>I think the general consensus here is that these levers work OK if the
>wheels are true and cables regularly adjusted to compensate for stretch.
>The trouble with them is that they were widely sold on inexpensive bikes
>often bought by casual cyclists who neglected maintenance. By the way,
>there was a bike called the Schwinn World Voyager in the early 70's which
>was equipped with full Dura Ace, including Dura Ace centerpull brakes,
>which predated the "original" DA sidepulls. I believe the Dura Ace CPs on
>this bike had "suicide" levers. Interesting to consider Dura Ace assist
>levers. I believe Sarah actually has a pair of such levers. Didn't the
>Weinmann/Dia Comp levers attach with a screw that threaded into the side
>of the lever body? I think I've even seen Dia Comp hoods with a
>perforated circle that can be punched out for this screw. How does one
>attach assist levers to Campy brake levers?
>
>Regards,
>
>Jerry Moos
>
>Olof Stroh wrote:
>
>> Sheldon and others,
>>
>> A personal example that might have general implications:
>>
>> I ride my bikes with traditional non-aero levers, Superbes and
>> Triomphes. I reach them from the drops, I can squeeze them
>> easily from above just stretching a couple of fingers over them.
>> No problem.
>>
>> But my wife is a lot shorter than I am. She is well trained, but her
>> hands are nonetheless smaller and weaker. The NRs on her
>> beloved Colnago Super didn´t suit her. Not from the tops, nor
>> from the drops. But she is a strong rider, uses frequently all
>> positions of her drop bars,she wouldn´t be well served by a
>> "hybrid" with straight bars and high position, she wants and takes
>> advantage of a first class road bike.
>>
>> We have - shame - installed Shimano death grips. They are cheap
>> and I have looked upon such paraphernalia with a very lifted nose,
>> but they function well and are quite easy to install with full braking
>> power (using NR calipers). Comfortable to use and her position
>> braking is still more balanced than on the usual utility bike when
>> braking hard.
>>
>> Having found this: are they really so bad? Properly made and
>> installed? What is a rider in her position to do? (Granted, we
>> have got smaller aero Dia-Compes from fellow list member Mark
>> Koepke, are yet to try these, but the question still remains).
>>
>> BTW Sheldon, you´ve got me, I will order a fixed hub and try.
>>
>> Olof Stroh
>> Uppsala Sweden