Re: [CR]Interim report: Fake Hetchins....

(Example: Production Builders:LeJeune)

Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 06:47:02 -0800
Subject: Re: [CR]Interim report: Fake Hetchins....
From: "Steven L. Sheffield" <stevens@veloworks.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <3A4F4217.93372C6@penn.com>


The Hetchins frames at A Bicycle Odyssey are not of shoddy construction ... and they absolutely were built by Ron Cooper.

What I want to know is ... who actually builds the Hetchins frames for David Miller at World Class?

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Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks at earthlink dot net aitch tee tea pea colon slash slash double-you double-you double-you dot veloworks dot com slash


> From: Jerry & Liz Moos <moos@penn.com>
> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 09:26:31 -0500
> To: MasiGC3V@aol.com
> Cc: OROBOYZ@aol.com, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Interim report: Fake Hetchins....
>
> Well, the shop's story, which someone posted earlier, was that the importer
> told
> them that Ron Cooper and others are licensed to produce Hetchins in UK. This
> of
> course contradicts the story of David Miller who claims to hold the exclusive
> rights. If the bikes in question are so shoddy as to be obvious fakes, I
> would
> doubt the importer's story that Ron Cooper produced them, but I suppose that
> wouldn't conclusively prove that the "fakes" are not being produced under a
> valid license. After all, Motobecanes are now being produced in Taiwan by a
> firm with a very shady past who unfortunately do own the rights to the
> Motobecane name, so these may be "fake" Motobecanes in an artistic sense, but
> not a legal one. I would think the most effective action would be for David
> Miller to file a complain with the US Customs Service or the US Attorney's
> offices in the appropriate jurisdictions, including documentation of David's
> claim to hold exclusive rights. Perhaps someone here is knowledgeable enough
> of
> these matters to advise David the procedures for doing this. Let's hope
> David's
> claim is valid and that someone else does not hold a valid license to degrade
> the Hetchins name. I haven't yet heard much from our UK members as to who,
> other than David Miller, may be producing Hetchins in UK.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
>
> MasiGC3V@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Dale:
>>
>> The sale of such fakes constitutes trademark infringement if they are
>> not authorized by Hetchins. It would be appropriate to advise the United
>> States Attorneys Office of this crime in the districts where these bikes are
>> imported or sold. I would hope that this would result in the prosecution of
>> those who plan and profit from this fraud.
>>
>> If you need the addresses of those prosecutors or investigative agencies I'd
>> be happy to provide them to you.