[CR]50 years from now...

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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 17:02:06 +0000
From: "Bob Reid" <bob.reid1@virgin.net>
To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <B67A5CCB.4B88%bob.reid1@virgin.net>
Subject: [CR]50 years from now...

Quality schmality - what Confente was American (credibility gap greatly stretched here) - Try Colnago next (his grandmother once visited your country)

Isn't time we dropped this....

:-)

Bob.
> From: PeterGrenader <peterg@ixpres.com>
> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 04:42:50 -0700
> To: M4Campy@aol.com
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]50 years from now...
>
> I certainly hope the fine products from these American builders will be
> considered classics - let's be honest - there is very little in as far
> as quality that the euro's have over our frame builders. Add to the
> list Columbine, Holland, Confente (kinda American), Davidson, Waterford,
> etc... the list goes on.
>
> M4Campy@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all-
>>
>> I've been wondering about this for awhile and since we
>> just entered a new millennia I thought it would be in-
>> teresting discussion...
>>
>> I'm curious as to what everyone thinks will be vintage
>> or considered vintage/collectable 50 years from now.
>>
>> In particular, out of the current crop of active frame
>> builders -- especially the American's.
>>
>> Will Baylis, Eisentraut, Sachs, or Brown (limited pro-
>> duction) be as sought after as a Masi or Cinelli is in
>> todays world??? Maybe the Schwinn Fastback is what the
>> old guys of the future will be lusting for since it is
>> remembered as their first real racer...
>>
>> I guess the deeper question is what makes something or
>> in this case a bike collectable?
>>
>> Sentimentality plays a role... Folklore or legend? The
>> quality vs. quantity? One builder one frame? Artisian?
>> The first bike I rode where I wasn't spit out the back
>> of the fast local group ride;) Or, it was rode to Tour
>> victory even though the decals said differently!
>>
>> Or, are these times gone forever and a classic will be
>> just as prized in the future as now. In the age of big
>> production it seems like a lot of the mystique is gone
>> and all we are left with is CADD!
>>
>> I just can't see a bunch of guys reminiscing about the
>> Trek OCLV that they shouldn't have sold...
>>
>> Mike Wilkinson