[CR]Schwinn Madison & track bikes

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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:10:50 -0500
From: Jerry & Liz Moos <moos@penn.com>
To: Diane Feldman <feldmanbike@home.com>
CC: Jim Foreman <JIMFORE@compuserve.com>, Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: [CR]Schwinn Madison & track bikes

Now that we're on the topic of track bikes, anyone know more details of the Schwinn Madison? I used to see used ones for sale when I rode at the Alkek velodrome in Houston in the early 90's. I seem to remember that they had a pretty low BB for a track machine. That's probably why I never bought one. I had a supposed Yokota track bike with a BB really not much different from a road bike. Even with 165 cranks, I kept hitting pedals on the banking. After a few months I gave up and transferred the parts to a proper, though old, track frame I bought cheap from one of the Houston trackies. Nothing like a couple of cases of "track rash" to drive home the importance of BB height. Always amazed me that anyone would buy 170mm track cranks, but maybe the larger size track frames have higher BBs to allow this. I'd be interested to know how the classic British fixed gear bikes, that were often used for both track and TT work, compared to more recent dedicated track machines in terms of BB height.

Regards,

Jerry Moos

Diane Feldman wrote:
> Yeah! I used to have one of those Panasonics, they were sold in the late
> 70's and featured a double-threaded rear hub. Schwinn did the same thing
> about ten years later with their "Madison," only those were more of a "real"
> track bike as far as frame geometry,
> quality tubing (Columbus Cromor,) nice Sugino crankset, etc.
> Grant Petersen wanted Bridgestone to do a bike like that but numbers
> potential and the squeamishness of the Bridgestone home office squelched the
> project. And, anyone seen an Ibis Scorcher?
> David Feldman
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Foreman" <JIMFORE@compuserve.com>
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 8:10 AM
> Subject: [CR]Holdsworth track bike on r.b.m.
>
> > Message text written by "Roy H. Drinkwater"
> > > Saw this on rec.bicycles.marketplace, I've never seen a derailleur
> > hanger on track dropouts before. Was this something Holdsworthy commonly
> > did, or just a one-off?
> >
> > Note: I downloaded the jpeg and lightened / sharpened in Photoshop,
> but
> > there's definatly a derailleur hanger there.<<<<<
> >
> > I don't know how common it is but I have a friend who has a
> > Panasonic with a freewheel hub and single sprocket like a BMX bike. It has
> > a chain tensioner on that lug so he can swap sprockets without having to
> > mess with chain adjustment. BTW, the bike came with brakes both front and
> > rear. He bought the bike new from a lost freight outlet for $50.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/jimforetales/