Re: [CR]Schwinn Madison & track bikes

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From: "Robb Rasmussen" <bikeshop@ispchannel.com>
To: "Jerry & Liz Moos" <moos@penn.com>
Cc: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Schwinn Madison & track bikes
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:21:51 -0600


I have owned a Schwinn Madison since it was new in 1986. It has never been on a track, so I don't know about it's track handling qualtities. I bought it to add to my collection because of it's low price.

Robb Rasmussen
Sioux River Cyclery
501 Main Ave
Brookings, SD 57006 http://www.501main.com


----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry & Liz Moos
To: Diane Feldman
Cc: Jim Foreman


<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 12:10 PM Subject: [CR]Schwinn Madison & track bikes


> Now that we're on the topic of track bikes, anyone know more details of the
> Schwinn Madison? I used to see used ones for sale when I rode at the Alkek
> velodrome in Houston in the early 90's. I seem to remember that they had a
> pretty low BB for a track machine. That's probably why I never bought one. I
> had a supposed Yokota track bike with a BB really not much different from a road
> bike. Even with 165 cranks, I kept hitting pedals on the banking. After a few
> months I gave up and transferred the parts to a proper, though old, track frame
> I bought cheap from one of the Houston trackies. Nothing like a couple of cases
> of "track rash" to drive home the importance of BB height. Always amazed me
> that anyone would buy 170mm track cranks, but maybe the larger size track frames
> have higher BBs to allow this. I'd be interested to know how the classic
> British fixed gear bikes, that were often used for both track and TT work,
> compared to more recent dedicated track machines in terms of BB height.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
>
> Diane Feldman wrote:
>
> > Yeah! I used to have one of those Panasonics, they were sold in the late
> > 70's and featured a double-threaded rear hub. Schwinn did the same thing
> > about ten years later with their "Madison," only those were more of a "real"
> > track bike as far as frame geometry,
> > quality tubing (Columbus Cromor,) nice Sugino crankset, etc.
> > Grant Petersen wanted Bridgestone to do a bike like that but numbers
> > potential and the squeamishness of the Bridgestone home office squelched the
> > project. And, anyone seen an Ibis Scorcher?
> > David Feldman
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Foreman" <JIMFORE@compuserve.com>
> > To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 8:10 AM
> > Subject: [CR]Holdsworth track bike on r.b.m.
> >
> > > Message text written by "Roy H. Drinkwater"
> > > > Saw this on rec.bicycles.marketplace, I've never seen a derailleur
> > > hanger on track dropouts before. Was this something Holdsworthy commonly
> > > did, or just a one-off?
> > >
> > > Note: I downloaded the jpeg and lightened / sharpened in Photoshop,
> > but
> > > there's definatly a derailleur hanger there.<<<<<
> > >
> > > I don't know how common it is but I have a friend who has a
> > > Panasonic with a freewheel hub and single sprocket like a BMX bike. It has
> > > a chain tensioner on that lug so he can swap sprockets without having to
> > > mess with chain adjustment. BTW, the bike came with brakes both front and
> > > rear. He bought the bike new from a lost freight outlet for $50.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/jimforetales/