Re: [CR]Simplex DO Question

(Example: Framebuilding:Tubing)

From: "Eric Elman" <tr4play@home.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <OE110pzhad2VqKwRPQI00000860@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Simplex DO Question
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:05:53 -0600


Hi All,

Thanks for all the feedback. One important note is that the downward protruding tang is not at the very front of the dropout as illustrated the jpeg Randy sent. The tang hangs from the front of the lower edge which the axle rests on; in other words, just like the the derailleur side DO hanger except smaller and without the very bottom round part that the derailleur would mount onto. So far, Russ Fitzgerald's suggested use makes the most sense to me. I'll try and borrow a camera. Russ F. and David G. any chance of posting a pic from one of your bikes on the PX-10 website?

Thanks,

Eric Elman ----- Original Message ----- From: nelson miller To: Troy Warnick ; tr4play@home.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [CR]Simplex DO Question

Troy, et al-- If the 'tooth" you are referring to is the one shown on the "C. B. Continental" dropout as shown in the Claud Butler brochure, This is quite similar to the "Stallard" dropout that is on my '48 Rensch and Waller-- I was told that it's main function was to keep the axle from moving forward and fouling up the osgear shifting mechanism mounted on the chain stay. Having them on both sides would certainly enable insertion of the wheel into the dropout. One set of mine has a round area at the top of the "tooth" that would lock the axle in a fixed position, or you could slide it back into the dropout conventionally.. HILARY-- please help me on this one! With regard to something like that being on a PX-10, I havn't the foggiest. I will add a jpg photo of several types of dropouts availiable in the late 40's. Cheers -- Nelson Miller -- Seattle

----- Original Message ----- From: Troy Warnick Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:23 PM To: tr4play@home.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Simplex DO Question

Hi Eric,

I believe the "tooth" is meant to help locate the dropout as well. Check out the CR link listed below. It explains and shows the Claud Butler version of the tooth and is quite large.

http://www.cyclesdeoro.com/c_butler_excl_feat.htm

Best Regards, troy warnick

>From: "Eric Elman" <tr4play@home.com> >To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> >Subject: [CR]Simplex DO Question >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:23:07 -0600 > >I have what I presume to be a 1970 Peugeot PX-10 frameset based on decals >and date stamp on rear Simplex derailleur. The left rear Simplex dropout >is >odd - can anyone tell me more about it? Hanging down from the front edge >(section of metal which the axle would rest on) is a 3/4" tang protruding >down from the leading edge. It's about 1/4" wide at the top and narrows to >a gentle point - sort of the shape of a sharks tooth. Sorry, but I don't >have access to a digitle camera at the moment so I can't help with jpegs. >Is that enough for anyone to have ideas of what it's for, when it was used, >etc. > >As always, thanks in advance, > >Eric Elman > > > >_______________________________________________ >Classicrendezvous mailing list >Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org >http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous

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