Actually, BC, I'm cool, since, as a true Francophile, I have several Stronglight crank extractors, the lever arm of which was also a 16mm crank bolt wrench. (Non French folks may not understand this, but they must trust me on this).
Regards,
Jerry "Zeus, like rock & roll, will never die" Moos
renaissance-cycles wrote:
> Hey Jerry!
>
> Is the 16 mm hard to remove because you might not be using a 16 mm
> crank-bolt
> wrench but a 16 mm socket?............If so, and if you might be in need of
> a ''Zeus''
> 16 mm crank-bolt tool!..I know where I can get a ''NEW'' one for you, just
> not sure
> on the price!...Anybody else, let me know?!?
>
> Sorry Dale! I know I'm over the ''line'' with the pricing of this
> tool........I just don't
> have a......clue....on my suppliers price, been looking at them for the last
> year!!!
>
> BC, Baron Corpuz.......Buying up Europe!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jerry & Liz Moos <moos@penn.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 12:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Zeus Crank ID...?
>
> > Sorry, the cranks bolts are 16 mm, not 116, 16 is already hard enough to
> remove at
> > times.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry Moos
> >
> > Jerry & Liz Moos wrote:
> >
> > > So Brad, care to speculate where our mysterious Cosmos gruppo fits into
> the
> > > picture? Crank profile is more rounded than old Criterium, but less so
> than New
> > > Racer, one long single-level flute like Criterium. Arms are polished
> but rings
> > > more satin. Rings are not drilled and have webbing like later "aero"
> cranks.
> > > Logo on arms is the "Z", but enclosed in a circle that says "Zeus
> Spain". The
> > > BB spindle is chromed steel and says "Zeus 114-55", the calipers verify
> the
> > > 114mm length. The crank bolts are chromed "Zeus Spain" and are the
> classic Zeus
> > > 116mm, which Zeus had in common with Stronglight. Ever seen this stuff?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jerry Moos
> > >
> > > Stockwell, Brad wrote:
> > >
> > > > To All:
> > > >
> > > > Holy Cow! I recently got back from vacation and have noted that
> > > > apparently there is a post-millenial Zeus 'Anschluss' in progress -
> there's
> > > > been tons of stuff on Ebay and elsewhere lately and I've been going
> nuts!
> > > > There is no more room in my garage! There is no more money in my
> pocket!
> > > >
> > > > REGARDING IDENTIFICATION OF ZEUS CRANKS:
> > > > From about '74 to '79, all Zeus crankarms have the same shape. If
> you
> > > > check the Zeus parts page on 'le Rendezvous', the photo of the crank
> with
> > > > the reddish background (below the photo of the hubs) is from the 1977
> Zeus
> > > > 103 catalog and although this photo particularly depicts the 2000
> model, it
> > > > shows the generic topology.
> > > >
> > > > Starting with this image, you get yourself a Criterium crank by
> deleting
> > > > the slots in the arms, the holes in the rings, and the black coating
> on the
> > > > chainring bolts. From there, you get you a Gran Sport crank by
> deleting the
> > > > milling in the spider arms, using a softer grade of aluminum, and
> replacing
> > > > the Zeus-in-an-oval logo with the older Zeus-world logo.
> > > >
> > > > In a manner which mimics Campy, 1977's Gran Sport crank is twins
> with
> > > > 1971's Criterium.
> > > >
> > > > There were at least 5 versions of the 2000 crank. The early one
> (version
> > > > 1, I don't know when it premiered but It was before I joined the party
> in
> > > > '75) had 3 equal-length slots milled all-the-way-through the arms. A
> later
> > > > one (v2) had 3 through-slots which tapered in length (shortest one at
> the
> > > > pedal end). By '77 (v3), Zeus had stopped putting the slots all the
> way
> > > > through, despite the fact that the picture in the 103 catalog still
> showed
> > > > them. By '79 the Zeus 104 catalog showed the design pictured in the
> second
> > > > crank photo on the Zeus Rendesvous parts page (with the 'sand' colored
> > > > background - I call this version 5). In this model the rings are
> beefier,
> > > > the arms have a different aspect ratio, and look! We've changed the
> logo
> > > > again! In '78 there was a hybrid (v4) that had the '79-style rings on
> the
> > > > '77-style arms.
> > > >
> > > > Circa '80, there was a 'Supercronos' crank which was the Criterium
> arms
> > > > with the 2000 rings. (There was an early Supercronos parts group which
> was a
> > > > cocktail of criterium parts mixed with the flashier 2000 derailleurs
> and
> > > > chainrings, and the 2001 sidepulls.)
> > > >
> > > > After '80, the criterium crank had the beefier rings mentioned above
> but
> > > > without the holes.
> > > >
> > > > Sometime before '86 Zeus changed the arm design to get the
> 'Aero-look' in
> > > > the new Supercronos and New Racer (think updated Gran sport) cranks.
> The
> > > > aero crank style is shown in the New Racer ad at the bottom of the
> Zeus
> > > > Rendesvous parts page. The Supercronos had drilled rings, the New
> Racer
> > > > didn't. The Supercronos arms can be distinguished from the New Racer
> arms
> > > > by checking out the finish: if it's satiny anodization, it's
> Supercronos; if
> > > > it's shiny polished aluminum, it's New Racer.
> > > >
> > > > All the '70's cranks used a 118mm spindle (like stronglight) and to
> the
> > > > best of my measurement ability have 119mm chainring bolt circle
> diameters.
> > > > I suspect that some people call it 120mm because they distrusted their
> > > > senses and picked the closest round number. In '79, the titanium in
> the
> > > > 2000 BB (and elsewhere in the 2000 series) was replaced with another
> metal
> > > > referred to as Titanox, which I can now confirm is magnetic (via
> testing
> > > > with 28MGO Samarium Cobalt) and I'll guess that it is some form of
> stainless
> > > > steel since it is uncoated.
> > > >
> > > > The later cranks use a 110 spindle with the same 55mm flange spacing
> and
> > > > cups as the 70's models.
> > > >
> > > > Brad Stockwell
> > > > Palo Alto (year 2000 final tally: 6210 bike miles - only about a
> factor
> > > > of 3 less than Lance!)
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Harvey M Sachs [mailto:sachs@erols.com]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 6:58 AM
> > > > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > > > Subject: [CR]Zeus Crank ID...?
> > > >
> > > > Lads & Lassies -
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to identify a Zeus Crank set (so I can sell
> or
> > > > trade it).
> > > >
> > > > Classic-looking 5-arm, with Zeus-pattern bolt circle
> > > > (slightly smaller than
> > > > Campy).
> > > > Arm looks like Criterium at
> > > > http://www.cyclesdeoro.com/
> > > > but forged arms, not a 5-pin adapter as shown. Arm
> has
> > > > groove and slight
> > > > elevation for the pedal hole, as shown there.
> > > > No metal-worming (drilling) on the rings.
> > > >
> > > > Definitely NOT New Racer chainrings as shown in
> > > > http://www.cyclesdeoro.com/
> like
> > > > the 2000 rings.
> > > >
> > > > (Gee, thanks, Dale, for the wonderful photo albums
> that give
> > > > us reference
> > > > instead of just trying to drool words).
> > > >
> > > > Harvey Sachs
> > > >
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