Re: [CR]Since you asked

(Example: Framebuilders:Cecil Behringer)

Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 22:14:28 -0800
From: "Brian Baylis" <rocklube@adnc.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Since you asked
References: <4.3.2.20010301233813.027910e8@mail>


Jeff,

Not a bad guess I suppose, but not what I was thinking. We could play 20 questions; and yes, it is bigger than a bread box.

First of all, I'm thinking vintage. Should at least do that to stay on topic, don't you think.

Furthermore, I don't intend to be telling anybody what to think about any bike frame. I believe in teaching by giving people the "tools" to do their own thinking. I never was too fond of traditional education for that reason.

In order to demonstrate the system I use we need an example. One which no one is attached to personally on this list, or is likely to hear about it somehow and be offended or something. I just want to show how I think. Demonstrate how to use the system. Then each person can make their own determinations about what they like. It may or may not change with the new perspective. Please do not ask me what I think of this or that. Those opinions are for myself only. If one really wanted to know what I like all you would have to do is know what I have in my collection of stuff. I can say that I have a dozen of my own bikes from various periods of time. Many are track frames. I have sold quite a few personal frames in the past few years (about 6) to feed my drum habit. Have let go some other stuff as well for the same reason. But I still have a respectable amount. I like things that are one-of-a-kind for some reason.

Given that information, any guess? BTW, I have been asked my opinon on this particular frame dozens of times, and I'm sure it isn't over.

Brian Baylis Don't mean to tease you all, but it is kinda fun, isn't it?
>
> At 05:56 PM 3/1/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >Dear listmembers,
> >
> >I'd be curious to see if anyone else is thinking of the same "guinea
> >pig" for this experiment that I am. I believe I have the perfect choice.
> >
> >Well?
> >
> >Brian Baylis
> >LaLa Land
>
> Hello Brian,
> I'm living in mock fear of hearing a frank critique of my (rare! :^))
> match-built Rivendell, while at the same time looking forward to hearing
> it. It'll be at the Cirque with me. I feel I have a good eye for style and
> cleanliness in lots of things, but I obviously don't see a frame as you do.
> While I've never seen a Starck built one, I believe my Riv is a bit further
> from perfect than I'd have gotten from, for example, you or Richie, but
> much, much nicer than the Waterford-built ones. But I love it, because it
> rides fabulously, fits perfectly, was part of my drift from the newest
> stuff to the proven stuff, and was the last thing I bought when I actually
> had disposable income. Now I have disposable time, instead.
>
> Since you asked for a guess, I think you've got the variously-built
> Rivendells in mind.
> Jeff Slotkin
> TheLocalSpoke
> Goose Creek, SC