Hetchins seem to come in a flavor to suit anyone:
http://www.flashq.de/
My keyhole-spade is, in my humble opinion, just right.
Joe
At 03:01 PM 3/8/01 -0800, stevens wrote:
>
>
>
>One of the great things about the indefineability of art is that
>opinions like this are valid.
>
>I happend to agree that a finely executed short point lug (with
>or without windows) is a thing of beauty.
>
>I like some curly-bits on lugs as well ...
>
>I think Hetchins are overdone ... too flash for my tastes.
>
>Others may disagree. Oh well.
>
>I'll just never tell someone that a Hetchins is not art or artistic
>... it's just not my taste. I don't see the big deal about a
>500-ish year old painting of a rather plain looking woman with
>a seriously deficient smile, either.
>
>
>
>>--- Original Message ---
>>From: Jim Allen <jimallen@nctimes.net>
>>To: Jerry Moos <moos@penn.com>
>>Date: 3/8/01 10:06:11 AM
>>
>
>>I'm of the school where form ought to follow function. I think
>the the curly stayed
>>Hetchins are at best curious oddities and curly cued lugs are
>ugly.
>>
>>However, a properly executed short pointed lug with or without
>windows is a thing of
>>beauty. But, the bike better be a great ride!
>>
>>Only my opinion, Nomex flame suit on.
>>
>>Later, Jim
>>
>>..
>>
>>
>>
>>Jerry Moos wrote:
>>
>>> I think the art and engineering of bicycles IS what we admire
>most, or at least
>>> high on the list, so I welcome Bob stimulating a discussion
>of that. Some
>>> bikes, like curly stay Hetchins, are high art, while others
>like my recently
>>> acquired Teledyne and my long owned ALANs are fascinating
>exercises in
>>> innovative engineering. Maybe the engineering is "light"
>compared to a fighter
>>> plane or a formula one cars, but in some respects it is more
>challenging, as you
>>> only have the power of one human as an engine, not the 1000
>hp of a formula one
>>> engine, and you can't design something that cost tens of millions
>of dollars
>>> like a fighter plane.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jerry Moos
>>>
>>> walter skrzypek wrote:
>>>
>>> > Can we nip this before it gets out of control.
>>> >
>>> > *snip*
>>> > I'm saddened to see that yet again we are descending into
>the depths of the
>>> > >"framebuilding is art rather than just light engineering"
>discussion group
>>> > >?
>>> > *snip*
>>> >
>>> > Notice he mentions that the postings appear to be going
>in the direction of
>>> > a "framebuilding is art rather than just light engineering"
>discussion...HE
>>> > DOES NOT state this as his opinion but rather it is the
>tragic path these
>>> > posts are starting to follow. Please let us return to the
>classic posts and
>>> > let this die out. OR email offlist. Yes, once again, I can
>indeed use delete
>>> > but when I get through using delete as others have said,
>I am not getting a
>>> > whole lot of other posts remaining. let us refocus back
>to what we all
>>> > admire most and cycling.
>>> >
>>> > Walt Skrzypek
>>> > Falls Creek, Pa
>>> > "believing the confente/medici/masi/... is beginning to
>look like the 2000
>>> > gore/bush election"
>>> >
>>> > >From: "Steven L. Sheffield" <stevens@veloworks.com>
>>> > >To: Bob Reid <bob.reid@btconnect.com>, Classic Rendezvous
>>> > ><classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>>> > >Subject: Re: [CR]Mario Confente (was inconsequential bollocks)
>>> > >Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 06:22:56 -0800
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >Frame building is more than just light engineering.
>>> > >It is more than just craftsmanship.
>>> > >It is more than art.
>>> > >
>>> > >It is all three.
>>> > >
>>> > >The engineering comes in designing a bike that won't fall
>apart when
>>> > >ridden.
>>> > >The craft is taking the design and building it consistently
>well.
>>> > >The art is in making it look beautiful rather than just
>functional.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >--
>>> > >
>>> > >Steven L. Sheffield
>>> > >stevens at veloworks dot com
>>> > >veloworks at earthlink dot net
>>> > >aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash
>double-you
>>> > >double-yew double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word]
>slash
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > > From: Bob Reid <bob.reid@btconnect.com>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >[snip]
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > > I'm saddened to see that yet again we are descending
>into the depths of
>>> > >the
>>> > > > "framebuilding is art rather than just light engineering"
>discussion
>>> > >group ?