Re: [CR]headbadge rivet question

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From: "Takao Noda" <>
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Subject: Re: [CR]headbadge rivet question
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 00:56:49 +0900

No, he did not use anything as an anvil. I thought that after the part of rivet(or nail) was cut off by a screw driver , broken part of the rivet remained inside might prevent the rivet from coming off. Or because the rivet( nail) was a little tapered at the top , when he drove it into the hole by hammer ,the paint involved might help the fixing. ( I hope you can understand my awkward explanation)
    In Japan I usually saw headbadges were fixed by hollow( tube) brass rivets which made the frame cheap. On the contrary I saw on Italian frames solid copper or brass rivets ( nails) . Were the hollow brass rivets peculiar to Japan?
    And are "self-tapping" rivets Chuck Schmidt mentioned short enough to make it unnecessary to cut off the part inside?
                            Takao Noda
                  Hachioji, Tokyo, Japan

----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Sandvik
To: Classic Bike List
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [CR]headbadge rivet question

> Takao,
> Did he use anything as an anvil inside the headtube
> to form the backside of the rivet? Usually with
> rivets, you place something heavy and hard
> (the "anvil") behind the rivet as you hammer.
> I'm beginning to see why some builders preferred
> screws.
> --
> Craig Sandvik
> Berkeley, CA, USA