Re: [CR] Is this Japanese collector getting screwed?IDEALE $175?

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From: <CYCLESTORE@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:57:19 EST
Subject: Re: [CR] Is this Japanese collector getting screwed?IDEALE $175?
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


Howdy Guys,

I don't know about the crafty idiosycrosies of E-Bay bidding but on the $175.00 or so Ideale Saddle.

I'm not sure of the model or condition of the e-Bay model (I hope it was NOS for that price) but about a year ago a Euro exporter quoted me some prices on various NOS Ideale sddles that would make $175.00 a good starting price if I decided to import a few copies. They would have ranged about 70-100% higher than equivalent models of Brooks saddles produced today, but Ideale's ( Like Rene Herse's) haven't been made for quite a while.

If anyone needs a specific model I'd be glad to hunt one but have at least a$175.00 ready.

Gilbert Anderson

The North Road Bicycle Company your bicycle outfitter 519 W. North St. Raleigh, NC 27603 USA ph toll free in USA :800/321-5511 Local ph: 919/828-8999 E-Mail: cyclestore@aol.com

In a message dated 3/18/01 4:58:06 PM, moos@penn.com writes:

<< This can definitely happen. A shill can place a very high bid, say $300, which would insure that your bid would be raised to your maximum of $98.50 and any other bidders' maximums would be entered. Then the seller contacts the second high bidder whose effective bid has been increased by the shill. One might say that one would usually be willing to pay the maximum one bid, but If you think there is improper conduct, I don't blame you for refusing. Also, if you think the seller has rigged the auction, how can you trust him to deliver the merchandise as promised?

Regards,

Jerry Moos

Huemax@aol.com wrote:


> Hi, Jerry, and guys,