Re: [CR]headbadge rivet question

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From: <CYCLESTORE@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 00:33:11 EST
Subject: Re: [CR]headbadge rivet question
To: tanoda@d1.dion.ne.jp, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


Takoa,

It's no wonder that the Japanese are regarded so highly in the manufacture of so many things including bicycles. The Japanese hollow rivets must have been introduced to save weight! No doubt the best ones were double butted for extra strength and even lower weight. Remarkable, your find. You must treasure it, I would naturally.

I have no affiliation with the US Postal Team that I am aware of.

The Silly Cyclist,

Gilbert Anderson Raleigh NC USA

In a message dated 3/19/01 3:58:17 PM, tanoda@d1.dion.ne.jp writes:

<< No, he did not use anything as an anvil. I thought that after

the part of rivet(or nail) was cut off by a screw driver , broken

part of the rivet remained inside might prevent the rivet from

coming off. Or because the rivet( nail) was a little tapered at

the top , when he drove it into the hole by hammer ,the paint

involved might help the fixing. ( I hope you can understand my

awkward explanation)

In Japan I usually saw headbadges were fixed by hollow( tube)

brass rivets which made the frame cheap. On the contrary I saw on

Italian frames solid copper or brass rivets ( nails) . Were the

hollow brass rivets peculiar to Japan?

And are "self-tapping" rivets Chuck Schmidt mentioned short

enough to make it unnecessary to cut off the part inside?

Takao Noda

Hachioji, Tokyo, Japan


----- Original Message -----


From: "Craig Sandvik" <distracticon@yahoo.com>

To: "Classic Bike List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 3:01 AM

Subject: Re: [CR]headbadge rivet question


> Takao,
> Did he use anything as an anvil inside the headtube
> to form the backside of the rivet? Usually with
> rivets, you place something heavy and hard
> (the "anvil") behind the rivet as you hammer.
>
> I'm beginning to see why some builders preferred
> screws.
>
> --
> Craig Sandvik
> Berkeley, CA, USA