Re: [CR]Pinnicle of the vintage lightweight era?

(Example: Component Manufacturers:Ideale)

To: Doland.Cheung@sce.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:49:36 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR]Pinnicle of the vintage lightweight era?
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>


On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:32:39 -0800 Doland.Cheung@sce.com writes: What does everybody think the pinnicle of the vintage lightweight era might be?
>>>during the mid 70s, as the 'investment cast' era was being
         ushered in, bicycles would begin to lose their soul. under
         the guise of new/improved/better/etc., the frame makers
         sold the bill that cast pieces advanced the quality of the frame.
         in truth, particularly in that era, all that cast lugs, one-piece
         brake briges, plug-in dropouts, and other similar parts did
         was reduce the handwork involved to produce a finely made
         frame. prior to that, it was a thousand little subconscious decisions
         that occured by each framebuilder every single time an operation
         or a sequence was carried out. intuition. experience. training. it
         matters not what you call it. it was needed to build frames then.
         when the little parts started coming from foundries and casting
         houses, most of the decisions regarding interfernce fits, clearances,
         aesthetics, etc., were taken out of the hands of the framebuilders
         and susequently were made by mold-makers. in time, all one would
         need to build a frame would be tubing and torches. the phenomenom
         of learning 'how to make frames' versus 'assembling frames' would
         spell the end of the classic bike as we CR listmembers define it.
         it might be easier to state that many feel that pre-fab, cast pieces
         are 'imitaion art'. i believe this is so. anything that can be bought
         by anyone or used by anyone cannot be defined as 'classic'.
         please don't read too much in to this; i'm not comparing eras
         nor saying 'us versus them'. i'm just answering doland's question.
         e-RICHIE