Re: [CR]What sort of hubs are these?

(Example: Framebuilding:Tubing)

Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:43:12 -0500
To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
From: "John Taglia" <jtagli1@uic.edu>
Subject: Re: [CR]What sort of hubs are these?


Let's put this way: The rims look to be Hi-E, but the hubs are clearly not Hi-E. Also, these are clearly not Phil Wood hubs, either. Hi-E hubs were 3 piece hubs, similar to Phil Woods in construction. The hubs are lathe-turned one piece, unlike Hi-E or Phil Wood. The axles of these hubs, however, suggest sealed bearings as they apparently lack cones and locknuts. Of course, Phil and Hi-E both did make Hi/Low hubs, as Campagnolo.

Hi-E, btw, often had non-36 hole drillings. The preferred Hi-E wheel setup was a 28/14 rear (28 drive side, 14 radial non-drive side) Hi/Low and (iirc) a 32 radial small flange front (or 28 if you were very light). Some people found these wheels fragile, particularly those built with Hi-E time trial rims (196 grams as opposed to the 280 gram heavy duty rims0. I had good luck with my Hi-E time trial wheels, but I only used them for racing and on smooth road. Harlan Meyers built very nice wheels IMHO, with lots of light guage spokes at a high tension.

As to the use of the word Campagnolo, it is some what annoying, but folks do it so the search engines will turn up items. Unfortunately, when you are looking for items using the search engines, you end up finding a lot of irrelevant stuff.

Regards,

John Taglia Chicago, 30 degrees or so and windy

At 11:42 PM 4/16/2001 -0400, Sheldon Brown wrote:
>Quoth Dave Anderson:
>
>>Can't say that the guy who is selling them has any idea of what sort of hubs
>>they are either. His> ebay title indicates some "campagnolo" item or some
>>> "campagnolo era" item for sale. Both of those issues have no ring of truth.
>>> One can only assume that they rest of his ebay ad is also false. Its ads
>>> like these that give ebay a questionable name. But then again, he has over
>> > 317 positive remarks. So it goes?
>
>The use of "Campagnolo" as a keyword to designate exotic high-end
>road parts is a well-established custom on eBay, and I don't consider
>it deceptive at all. Indeed, I recently bought a Hetchins frame that
>was listed as: "Rare Hetchins Curly Bicycle Frame Campagnolo".
>
>I don't know what the hubs are either, they don't look like Hi-Es
>I've seen, but there were multiple variants of these, and I believe
>that the seller is being straight in his or her description. Too bad
>there isn't a close up of one of the rims, might be possible to tell
>something from that. I would mention that, in the '70s, 32 spoke
>wheels were considered radical exotica.
>
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