Walter et al,
Gotta disagree here. All the old stuff (at least 70's stuff) tried to look like Campagnolo with a few exceptions. Think about it: Gipiemme, Galli, Sugino, Mavic (kinda, not hubs, though), Shimano (except derailleurs), SunTour (Superbe except derailleurs), Nervar Cranks, Zeus (except the later stuff)., they emulated Campagnolo.
Exceptions I can think of were Huret, Sun-Tour derailleurs, and a few other French things.
Regards,
John Taglia
At 03:04 PM 4/18/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>And the newer stuff sure isn't as pretty...
>To look at a new grouppo...if it weren't for the name, you would never be
>able to tell the upper from the lower. It all looks ugly, no gentle curves
>or attractive elegance. Just my opinion
>
>Walt
>Falls Creek, Pa
>
>
>>From: John Taglia <jtagli1@uic.edu>
>>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>Subject: Re: [CR]E-bay prices
>>Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:52:51 -0500
>>
>>At 11:27 AM 4/18/2001 -0700, Tom Dalton wrote in part:
>> >Modern cars, like modern bikes, are simply much better
>> >for the vast majority of end users. Fringe group
>> >fanatics like ourselves and the street-rod set are not
>> >unwarranted in their nostalgia and for them the old
>> >stuff may actually better meet their needs. However,
>> >this is only because we are willing to suffer the many
>> >drawbacks of old products to gain some benefits that
>> >would be totally lost on most of the population.
>>
>>
>>I have to disagree with this.
>>
>>I really think bike component technology peaked in 1984 or so. I don't
>>think moder 10 cog clusters are better. I don't find modern brakes an
>>advance. Most of the changes seems like marketing. I like my Merlin, but
>>I think it would be just as fast built up with a Spidel gruppo or 50th
>>Anniversary gruppo as with modern components.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>John Taglia
>>
>>Sunny and mid 40's in Chicago