Re: [CR]Taiwanese Campy?

(Example: Framebuilding:Brazing Technique)

Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:10:03 -0500 (EST)
From: "Brandon Ives" <monkey37@bluemarble.net>
To: Marc Boral <mbikealive@earthlink.net>
Cc: Diane Feldman <feldmanbike@home.com>, "Moos, Jerry" <jmoos@urc.com>, "'Lee Berg'" <lberg@ventoux.com>, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Taiwanese Campy?
In-Reply-To: <3B153E2D.983808F5@earthlink.net>


This is what I've always been told. It's my understanding that Campagnolo was really set against sending ANYTHING to Asia. But this information is maybe 5 years old so maybe things have changed. Though something in the back of my mind is saying that I read something about Mirage parts. . . ? I went and looked all over the Campy Only! website and found nothing except a new Retro section. enjoy, Brandon"monkeyman"Ives

"Nobody can do everything, but if everybody did something everything would get done." Gil Scott-Heron

On Wed, 30 May 2001, Marc Boral wrote:
> I was told by a Campy employee that some of the lower end forgings (especially
> hubs) were subbed out to Ofmega. Campy has ALWAYS subbed out their steel
> hardware for all components.
>
> Marc Boral
>
> Diane Feldman wrote:
>
> > The offered group appears to be the first-generation (@1988) Athena group.
> > Newer cheap Campy hubs from Taiwan? I've overhauled a bunch of them and
> > wouldn't doubt it. The Mirage and Veloce front hubs are about Joytech
> > quality and the cones look like Joytech.
> > David Feldman
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Moos, Jerry" <jmoos@urc.com>
> > To: "'Lee Berg'" <lberg@ventoux.com>; "Aldo Ross" <swampmtn@siscom.net>
> > Cc: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:10 AM
> > Subject: RE: [CR]Taiwanese Campy?
> >
> > > I'm not very up on my C-Record and later Campy, but I agree that the
> > brakes
> > > and also pedals look like Victory or Triomphe. The derailleurs and cranks
> > > could be late Victory or Triomphe or maybe early Chorus or Athena. So I'm
> > > not sure this is even a complete gruppo of the same model, and even if it
> > > is, none of the parts appear to be Record. Of course he said "upper end"
> > > not "top end", but that kind of clever wording makes me suspicious.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jerry Moos
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Lee Berg [mailto:lberg@ventoux.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:51 PM
> > > To: Aldo Ross
> > > Cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > > Subject: Re: [CR]Taiwanese Campy?
> > >
> > >
> > > The cranks look to be newer (appear to be low end and have the
> > > mid-/late-'90s logo and chain pickup pins on the large chainring; the
> > > photo is none too clear) than the (Triomphe?, Victory? cheapo QR) brake
> > > calipers . Doesn't look like "upper end" or a real "groupset" to me.
> > >
> > > Lee Berg
> > > Palo Alto
> > >
> > >
> > > Aldo Ross wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Please read this ad on eBay:
> > > >
> > > > http://ebay.com/<blah>
> > > >
> > > > Since when has Campy made anything in Taiwan???
> > > >
> > > > Incredulously,
> > > >
> > > > Aldo Ross