Re: RE: [CR]Confente "Scam" ends

(Example: Framebuilders:Bernard Carré)

From: "Mark Petry" <mpetry@bainbridgeisland.net>
To: "Brandon Ives" <monkey37@bluemarble.net>, <Philcycles@aol.com>
Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.20.0106181218300.29802-100000@comet.bluemarble.net>
Subject: Re: RE: [CR]Confente "Scam" ends
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:40:06 -0700


All right, if we state that classic / vintage bikes are a collectible and prices behave according to the perfect market model (probably a flawed assumption) here are 2 questions

Where is the market on the appreciation curve (beginning, still rising, topped out) can we think of any BETTER bike to buy than a confente IF appreciation in cost (for ultimate resale) is the objective? How are we affecting the market for vintage bikes by RIDING our bikes (IMHO this is the coolest thing about collecting bikes - you can ride them rather than just let 'em hang on the wall.)

Anything else ?

================================================ Mark Petry 206 618 9642 mailto:mpetry@bainbridgeisland.net Beautiful Bainbridge Island ================================================ Most of american life is spent driving somewhere and then coming home, wondering why the hell you went.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Ives
To: Philcycles@aol.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: RE: [CR]Confente "Scam" ends



> The market for bike parts is 100x larger than any od the "fine
> arts" markets. Mitzi and I kinda collect prints since it's the only kind
> of "art" we can even imagine owning. Beleive me, it really doesn't take
> much for things to get out of control. I've been colleting bikes for a
> little of over 10 years and I can tell you prices have skyrocketed in that
> time. Though things like Ebay has made it quite a bit easier to find
> stuff. No more driving 100 miles to look a bike.
> enjoy,
> Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
>
> "Nobody can do everything, but if everybody did something everything would
> get done." Gil Scott-Heron
>
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 Philcycles@aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> > In a message dated 6/18/01 7:51:20 AM, monkey37@bluemarble.net writes:
> >
> > << This topic is getting quite OT, but if you know
> > anything about collecting of high dollar items you'll know that this
> > could be the start of a downward spiral of profiteering on the classic
> > community. I'm all for a free market economy but it does have a tendency
> > to bred sharks. >>
> >
> > I don't agree. As has been discussed many times both here and on the road the
> > market for bike stuff is very thin. I don't think the market is big enough
> > for the downward spiral to occur.
> > Phil Brown