Re: [CR]WILL THE GOSSIP EVER END?

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From: "JAMES T. SALZLEIN" <velopista@hotmail.com>
To: tr4play@home.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]WILL THE GOSSIP EVER END?
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:58:24 -0000


Once again I apologize. I should not have used the word Jap. Everytime a auction does a moonshot, the accusations flow like water. These remarks serve no purpose here.

Jim Salzlein Cape May, New Jersey


>From: "Eric Elman" <tr4play@home.com>
>To: "JAMES T. SALZLEIN" <velopista@hotmail.com>,
><classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: Re: [CR]WILL THE GOSSIP EVER END?
>Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:04:37 -0400
>
>Hello Jim,
>
>Who cares? I care. This list is, as you say, "to discuss bicycles." The
>hobby includes buying, selling and issues of market value along with the
>technicalities of the physicl bicycle and it's components. I too, on
>occassion get tired of a particular thread - but as long as it is on topic,
>who am I (or you in this case) to whine about it to the list? This list is
>not about you and what you want to read - it is for all who Dale has
>graciously invited to subscribe and to get the most out of the individual
>and collective contributions. I have found many of the non-technical
>dicussions to be insightful about our hobby and appreciate those
>contributions. I post questions to the list when I'm looking for some
>specific knowledge or parts and I contribute to the list when I believe I
>have something of value to share. If you do not enjoy a particular thread
>-
>hit the delete button. If an on-topic type of bike is being bid to all new
>heights in the hobby it is fair to be discussed - maybe even foolish for it
>not to be discussed.
>
>Finally, I am offended at your casual use of "some Jap." Surely if you
>have
>something valuable to contribute to the list you could do it in a more
>sensitive and non-offensive manner.
>
>Eric "long time CR subscriber" Elman
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: JAMES T. SALZLEIN <velopista@hotmail.com>
>To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 11:23 AM
>Subject: [CR]WILL THE GOSSIP EVER END?
>
>
> > Hello all, I can't believe all the rhetoric concerning the confente on
>ebay. Many listmembers has posted their opinion that this auction is a
>scam. So if it is,WHO CARES!!! I subscribe to this list to learn about,
>and to discuss bicycles. I am sick and tired of wading through the garbage
>to do this. I have become disappointed with everyone slamming some Jap if
>he paid a lot for something or someone knowing it all if a auction brings a
>lot of money. I cant figure why so many things bring above market value
>but
>eveything can't be a scam or some hoax. Auction bidding is one of the
>oldest forms of commerce. Do your homework, place your bid, if you are top
>bidder, you are the winner, if your bid is called, maybe you were to
>conservative, or simply the merchandise was worth more to another. Very
>simple. Please lets stop the gossip and ignorant accusations, and let get
>back to talking about bicycles.
> >
> > Jim Salzlein
> >
> > Cape May, New Jersey&nbsp;