Re: [CR]RE: Simplex and other French Garbage?

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From: "John Quigley" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]RE: Simplex and other French Garbage?
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 09:29:45 -0500

I love the higher end Simplex & Campagnolo derailleurs, but the Prestige didn't do too bad for plastic, I mean you can still find an old UO-8 that is in terrible condition & the derailleurs & shifters will still "work" after almost 30 years! not bad for cheap palstic garbage :-)

>From: Jerry & Liz Moos <>
>Subject: Re: [CR]RE: Simplex and other French Garbage?
>Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 19:58:50 -0400
>Well, maybe we overwork this issue. Certainly, they will all shift gears,
>as will a Shimano
>Eagle or a Huret Allvit for that matter. It's really a matter of the
>force applied, how
>much you have to overshift and recenter, and how smooth and quiet they are
>once centered. I
>personally find the amount of effort involved in shifting a Campy greater
>than Simplex and
>much greater than SunTour. On thing I wiil concede is that Campy levers,
>though far inferior
>to Simplex retrofrictions, were much better than the plastic Simplex
>levers, but then so was
>every other lever on the market.
>Jerry Moos
>Chuck Schmidt wrote:
> > Jerry & Liz Moos wrote:
> > >
> > > Isn't good twice as good as bad? Guess there isn't a standard unit of
> > > quality. Or maybe a SunTour Cyclone should equal 10, in which case
>Simplex SLJ = 6 and
> > > Campy NR =3. Hey that's twice as good isn't it? And if the Simplex
>is coupled with
> > > Simplex retrofriction shifters versus Campy NR levers, the gap grows
>even bigger. But
> > > the Campys last forever and they do look cool.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jerry Moos
> >
> > I've used all the derailleurs you have mentioned so far and never had
> > any problem shifting with any of them. Apparently you have?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Chuck