I like Bob Jackson's , the fact that you can have a frame made with any Reynolds tubing with any angels and any wheelbase you want , and any combination of colors for a reasonable price is some what of a miracle . I had a track frame and a touring frame built in the early ' 90s. The down side , a fork blade broke on the touring bike on a long decent , fortunately the forks began shuddering as I applied the breaks and I was able to stop and check it out . Bob Jackson replaced the forks and added a stiffener to inside of the fork blades . Would I buy another one , probably not . Jim McCoin