Re: [CR]Help in dating a Raleigh "Carlton"

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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:21:19 -0400
From: "Larry Osborn" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Help in dating a Raleigh "Carlton"
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At 11:37 PM 7/11/01 -0500, you wrote:
>CR list,
>I have (what I thought was) a early/mid 1960s Raleigh Carlton up on eBay
>(not really plugging it -- its just happens to be where the photos are)
>and there have been some questions as to its date of manufacture. Mostly
>centering around the headbadge that Nelson Miller of Seattle has stated
>was used in '69/'70/'71 to honor some anniversary of Raleigh (according to
>a "Raleigh freak buddy" of his). Can anyone shed light on the mystery?
>Thanks and bid high (err ... I mean, thanks for looking),
>Bob Hufford
>Springfield, MO

Bob Not sure what the story is on the headbadge design. World champion colors? Olympic torch? Beats the heck outta me. However, the earliest US Raleigh catalog I have that shows 10-speeds with this headbadge is a 1967. This badge design was only used on the 10-speed, drop bar "racing" models. The badge disappeared as they ran out during the 1971 production year. Not certain, but I think the standard/correct seattube decal was also the same image, not the Carlton "guy on a bike" decal you described. This bike wasn't being pushed as a Carlton, or as being Made by Carlton, the model name is "Carlton". The other 10-spd drop bar model in the catalog was the "Record", which accidentally has the heron headbadge. Maybe they reused an older picture. 1966? 1967? The Carlton model was not in the 68 catalog, so you're in the right time frame. Not that I actually trust the catalogs.......

Gotta go