Re: [CR]Lugless brazed question

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From: "Diane Feldman" <feldmanbike@home.com>
To: <rfitzger@emeraldis.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "Joseph Bender-Zanoni" <jfbender@umich.edu>
References: <3.0.5.32.20010718103328.016fbb80@j.imap.itd.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: [CR]Lugless brazed question
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 07:39:26 -0700


Also, consider that most of the first generation of mountain bikes were
fillet brazed.
DF


----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Bender-Zanoni
To: rfitzger@emeraldis.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [CR]Lugless brazed question



> A lugless fillet brazed frame with proper mitering should be at least as
> strong as lugged. The lug is not supposed to provide much strength while
> the fillet obviously strengthens the joint area. In terms of rugged frames
> there were few if any tougher than the fillet brazed Schwinn Sports Tourer
> or Superior in their day. Many riders used these for expedition type
> touring before better gear was available. Also consider fillet brazed
> tandems like the Santana and Jack Taylor.
>
> The leading proponent of fillet brazing these days is probably Landshark
> and they charge more for the fillet models than lugged.
>
> Joe
>
> At 01:00 PM 7/18/01 GMT, rfitzger@emeraldis.com wrote:
> >O fellow classicists,
> >
> >Here's a wierd question, as I work with a ride buddy - traditionally, are
> >lugless brazed frames considered as strong as lugged ones? I would think
> they
> >would be equivalent in strength, but the rider in question is over 200 lbs.,
> >and he'd be happier knowing the bike he is looking at would hold up well
> under
> >him.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Russ Fitzgerald
> >rfitzger@emeraldis.com
> >
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