I am passing them on as I get them. Thanks all. He is now being a pain at first he stated he has limited funds and just needed a frame, now I have given him some options from list members (some great deals) and now wants his cake and eat it too. Exact sizing, exact angles, lugged steel, Italian name (big name preferably). I want to apologize to anyone who has emailed me I was just trying to help a fellow cyclist out. Thanks all who contribute it makes my day to read your messages. Sam D.