I believe the steel bikes, with precise, semi to fancy lugs, will always have a following. Baylis, Sachs, and Eisentraut frames are already on the wish list for my collection. I just never see them offered in the right size & condition for the price I can pay. When everyone else is going to TIG welding, aluminum, ti, and carbon, lugged steel frames will become scarcer & scarcer, particularly the good ones. To have seen an Eisentraut on ebay last month with TIG welding almost broke my heart. I can't think of more than 2 or 3 Ti, Aluminum, Carbon, or TIG frames that have been made in the past 15 years that will be true collectibles. Someone will always want them, but not moi. Lou Deeter, "still freezing in Huntsville AL"