Re: [CR]Italian Masi frames vs US Masi frames

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From: "David Goerndt" <>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Italian Masi frames vs US Masi frames
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:56:24 -0400

[CR]Italian Masi frames vs US Masi frames

> A question I have regarding the differences between Italian and US frames.
> Are there any differences in manufacturing details that would identify a
> Masi as either US or Italian? There have been many Masi frames/bikes offered
> for sale lately, that I would like to have some idea of a definitive way to
> tell one from the other. I know this could turn out to be a rather broad
> question, but I was wondering how to id specific frames and time period

I wanted to add to this post. I'm aware of the gross differences, the "M" versus the "MC", no serial number on Italian frames etc. I want to know if there are any more subtle details. I was told that Italian frames had chain stay bridges with points on the braze-on while US frames had a rounded detail. I've seen frames with cutouts in the seat tube lug tange (front side) and others with no cut outs. Did any of the frames, either Italian or US ever have just the frame size stamp, no "M" or "MC"? Was the large cut out "M" on the bb shell used exclusively on US frames?

David Goerndt