Re: [CR]the next thread Ole Eddy

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Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 18:34:20 -0800
From: "Brian Baylis" <rocklube@adnc.com>
To: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com>
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]the next thread Ole Eddy
References: <20011106.190257.-509487.53.richardsachs@juno.com>


Richard,

Rex Gephart mentioned being shown that fixturing while getting the cooks tour at the Vigorelli. That fixturing would be another prime target for the Masi Museum, no?

Brian Baylis La Mesa, CA
>
> <<<Brian Bayliss or Jim Cunningham who both worked at Masi in
> America must have
> some rumor or real facts on this Masi Coppi connection and some
> sources-documentation to back this up if available.>>>
>
> too much to cut and paste. and i re-read the post below
> and still don't know which post is attributed to what guy!
> but i know what i saw and what i saw was this:
> 3 years ago in the "made-in-italy" insert in the velonews
> mag, there was a advertorial on alberto masi and he was
> shown with a frame template fixture ..."once used to build
> frames for coppi".
> does this pass as evidence?
> e-RICHIE
> my coppi came from xerox
>
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 18:29:27 EST CYCLESTORE@aol.com writes:
> > Hello again,
> >
> > In a message dated 11/6/01 10:22:08 PM, tech@worrall.co.nz writes:
> >
> > << CYCLESTORE@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > Hi gang,
> > >
> > > On the Peugeot Masi's. These bikes would have been pointless to
> > construct as
> > > I have been told that Peugeot had a race shop to build team and
> > custom bikes
> > > to order for many years.
> >
> > The same could be said about Bianchi, yet Coppi had some frames
> > built by Masi
> > when
> > he rode for Bianchi.
> > DB
> > >>
> >
> > I didn't say it couldn't have happened. Rumors even suggest that
> > Masi's were
> > built by Mario Confente. Rumors abound but did Masi actually build
> > bikes for
> > Coppi? How often though, was he his primary builder and did he ever
> > work for
> > Bianchi and who is Masi? Alberto, Falerino and some long lost Masi
> > namesake
> > cousin. While I would not dispute this I have missed out on any
> > documentation
> > that might support this over the last 30 years or so.
> >
> > The last time I spoke to Coppi shortly before his death in 1960 he
> > said to
> > me, "Bambino, I likea ta ride datta Masi tricyclette lika you but
> > I'ma under
> > da contrata witha olde Edwardo Bianchi don's cha know; si." I was
> > three years
> > old then and I don't remember what bike he really rode.
> >
> > Brian Bayliss or Jim Cunningham who both worked at Masi in America
> > must have
> > some rumor or real facts on this Masi Coppi connection and some
> > sources-documentation to back this up if available.
> >
> > Sorry to sound so skeptical but I've been in the bike business for
> > almost
> > three full decades and I have not seen it all but I have seen
> > similar
> > unsupported claims (not that this is unsupported) on every rider,
> > team and
> > bike factory and small builder and I hate to see misinformation like
> > this
> > spread. Lots of locker room talk at bike school turns out to started
> > by
> > importers trying to increase the cache attached to their products or
> > even
> > users(riders) trying to build up the reputation of their personal
> > ride. You
> > can pay a lot for a name in this game.
> >
> > Today I have been told Lance Armstrong only rides Litespeeds painted
> > like
> > Trek's. While he certainly my own or ride a Litespeed and use it in
> > some
> > competitions unless Litespeed has secretly started making Carbon
> > Fiber bikes
> > then paints them like Trek's, this is a falsehood. Lance Armstrong
> > owns and
> > rides many brands of bikes from what I have seen, these are facts.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Gilbert Anderson" A person who because of the smooth detached ride
> > similar to
> > gliding through the country side from your sofa; will like Brian
> > Bayliss,
> > only drive the well engineered Cadillac Esqilade, the biggest SUV on
> > the
> > planet, also driven exclusively by Eddy Merckx, Francisco Moser,
> > Raymond
> > Polidor and built by Cadillac in America, not the Ferrari factory in
> > Mexico."
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/6/01 10:22:08 PM, tech@worrall.co.nz writes:
> >
> > << CYCLESTORE@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > Hi gang,
> > >
> > > On the Peugeot Masi's. These bikes would have been pointless to
> > construct as
> > > I have been told that Peugeot had a race shop to build team and
> > custom bikes
> > > to order for many years.
> >
> > The same could be said about Bianchi, yet Coppi had some frames
> > built by Masi
> > when
> > he rode for Bianchi.
> > DB
> > >>