Re: [CR]Colnagos. Flowers? Clubs? Both?

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To: hughwthornton@hotmail.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:57:59 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR]Colnagos. Flowers? Clubs? Both?
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>


"Hugh Thornton" <hughwthornton@hotmail.com> writes:
> Does anybody know what prompted Colnago to use this symbol?< ------------------------------------------------------------- Because the Zildjians were spoken for?

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On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:16:57 -0500 "Hugh Thornton" <hughwthornton@hotmail.com> writes:
> Mystery almost solved.
>
> There seems to be argument as to whether the Colnago symbols are
> Flowers or
> Clubs. I am told that Colnago himself calls them flowers. That may
> depend
> on how good his English is. He more likely calls them "fiori" which
> is the
> Italian for ........, you guessed it, Flowers AND Clubs. Literally
> fiori
> are flowers, but it is the name given to the card suit of clubs (the
> actual
> symbol derives from the German card suit (now defunct) of Acorns,
> even
> though the Italians call them flowers).
>
> So are they flowers or are they clubs?
>
> Well, if Colnago adopted the symbol after cleaning up in a high
> stakes poker
> game, I would say that they are clubs. On the other hand, if there
> was some
> memorable event involving flowers, and he chose the stylized card
> symbol for
> "fiori", then I would say they are flowers. Pending further
> conclusive
> information on this subject, I would say that everybody is right
> because
> they are undoubtedly the card sysmbol that anglophones call Clubs
> and
> italophones call Fiori, a.k.a. Flowers.
>
> Does anybody know what prompted Colnago to use this symbol?
>
> Hugh Thornton in amazingly warm and sunny UK