Re: [CR]Hey is this a Rally or a NR?

(Example: Framebuilders:Tony Beek)

Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:23:56 +0000
Subject: Re: [CR]Hey is this a Rally or a NR?
From: "Hilary Stone" <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: David Benson <tech@worrall.co.nz>, Marc Boral <mbikealive@earthlink.net>
Cc: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <3C048B74.80505@worrall.co.nz>


I think the evidence is now pointing to an early 80s production by Campagnolo. In England we have seen the evidence of a NOS one in a box which was seen earlier this year and referred to by Tony Beckett in his earlier posting. What we must not forget is the middle version of the Rally produced which used the same hexagonal GS bolts. Perhaps the Nuovo Record GT long arm derailleurs were a pre-run for the version 2 Rally derailleur? I will add this to the description on Ebay.

Regards

Hilary Stone, Bristol

David Benson wrote:
> Well, what can I say?
> Your "opinion" varies with my friends recollection of a situation that
> he was personally involved with.
> His "claim" is that he remembers receiving these deraillers from Campy,
> sometime in th early '80's. Seems pretty straightforwatd to me.
> DB
> Ak, NZ
>
> Marc Boral wrote:
>> Well, I guess all I can say is my opinion is different from his. So,
>> until I see printed documentation referring to this "rare" derailleur,
>> my opinion hasn't changed. There are just too many red flags
>> indicating "Modified by Consumer". It would be interesting to hear
>> any more details from him to support his claim.
>>
>> Marc Boral
>> Long Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> At 10:18 PM 11/27/2001, David Benson wrote:
>>
>>> Marc,
>>> Until 1987 my ex-colleague was the Campagnolo buyer for the NZ
>>> importer. They were an indent order for a customer whos specialised
>>> in touring bikes.
>>>
>>> Auckland, NZ
>>>
>>> Marc Boral wrote:
>>>
>>>> My thesis was not "that these derailleurs were made up by
>>>> distributors". I was suggesting that a private individual was
>>>> responsible, possibly because large quantities of NOS GS and Rally
>>>> small parts are still available from some distributors. That means
>>>> it is easy for people to obtain the parts, fairly inexpensively, to
>>>> make the example on Ebay.
>>>>
>>>> Who is your ex-colleague, and what gives you so much confidence in
>>>> his opinion? I don't mean to be condescending, but I feel very
>>>> confident in my assessment.