[CR]Was: Rally or a NR? changing to Valentino Campagnolo's judgement...

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From: <OROBOYZ@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:18:10 EST
To: fred_rednor@yahoo.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: [CR]Was: Rally or a NR? changing to Valentino Campagnolo's judgement...

In a message dated 11/28/01 1:17:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, fred_rednor@yahoo.com writes:

<<..... the fact that it is so easy to assemble a forgery that is 100% indistinguishable from one assembled by Campagnolo..... >>

(I am almost sorry I started this inquiry! I was just curious about this oddball part.)

I think now I agree with those who believe that these derailleurs were a bonafide product, if stop gap, by Campagnolo SPA. While I think it is feasible to assemble these from odd spares, it is not necessarily easy. I suspect these pivot pins would be tricky to install without fudging the ends.

Along those lines, some CR folk may recall that we had a big stink here on the CR list a few years ago when a list member bought an "NOS" Nuovo Record rear derailleur from another member for top dollar, and upon receipt, found it was made up of disparate parts. The buyer was alarmed and sent it to me to confirm and act as a witness in the situation. I discovered that the home assembler had entirely left out one of the pivot bushings, and had mushed up the ends of the aluminum pivot pins. I personally have not tried to install these pins but a good friend who is a consummate mechanic has attempted it with better but still not satisfactory results. The later style hollow pins may be easier though?

In any case, back to this Nuovo Record Rally derailleur, I am in agreement with Marc. mbikealive@earthlink.net writes:

<< Maybe this was a glimpse into the poor decision making to come from Valentino Campagnolo :-) >>

This is, after all, is the era when Valentino C. threw out the time honored and carefully developed Super Record & Nuovo Record parts, "replacing" them with Triomphe, Victory , & Record groups. Out went the 144 chain ring pattern, in came two new patterns (only 135 remains now). In with "aero" toe clips of many patterns, in with Delta brakes, in with SGR clipless pedals, in with Syncro I & II, etc. etc. These ill conceived products gave competitor Shimano even more momentum and only in recent years has Campy regained a position of respect....

Dale Brown
Greensboro, North Carolina