Re: [CR]. Re: Hey is this a Rally or a NR?

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Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:46:32 +0000
Subject: Re: [CR]. Re: Hey is this a Rally or a NR?
From: "Hilary Stone" <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: Marc Boral <mbikealive@earthlink.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011128095140.00b16258@mail.earthlink.net>


Maybe Campag ran out of Rally forgings, maybe Campag tried this version prior to producing the version of the Rally without the droparm. Whatever it is an extremely rare model.

Regards

Hilary Stone, Bristol, England

Marc Boral wrote:
> Tom Dalton made an observation about this der. that, I am embarrassed to
> say, slipping by me. Nice work Tom. He noticed that the lower body of the
> parallelogram did not seem up to snuff as he remembered a NR should
> look. So, I went back to the Ebay photos..............DAMN! he's
> right. In fact, the upper body is not NR either. The ONLY thing that is
> NR on this entire der. is the outer arm. In other words, this is the stock
> GS Rally except for the outer arm.
>
> This new information negates my earlier theory about how easy it would be
> to make this beast. It would now be much more difficult and much more
> skill needed to pull this off. I can be done. But, because of the effort
> involved, I am less likely to think a mentally disturbed or agenda driven
> individual did this.
>
> Therefore, I must apologize to all people that stood by the theory that it
> is a bonafide Campy model. However, the date of this derailleur is still
> about '84 or later.
>
> Here is my current opinion: I have no clue! Why would Campagnolo
> compromise the "Record" heritage by creating such a beast, especially when
> the GS Rally model was in production PRIOR to this. It doesn't make any
> sense. Maybe this was a glimpse into the poor decision making to come from
> Valentino Campagnolo :-) I don't know, and I give up.
>
>
> At 09:14 AM 11/28/2001, Hilary Stone wrote:
>> One final point I would like to make about this derailleur is how I
>> bought it. At Haddenham Cyclejumble a couple of weeks ago a couple of old
>> boys came along with a couple of boxes of bits and a bike. I bought a few
>> bits off them and the bike which was fitted with this derailleur. The bike
>> and the mech were absolutely encrusted with dried up road dirt and grease -
>> it took a lot of cleaning but clearly shows only a little use. So the
>> derailleur was not found separately or sold to me as a 'special' item. I
>> believe totally in its provenance - there is no way it is a forgery. And I
>> think there is plenty of evidence to suggest that Campagnolo made a number
>> of these derailleurs - the NOS one that turned up in the UK, David Benson's
>> one in NZ, and the ones that Chuck Schmidt has seen. The fact that all these
>> use the same combo of parts suggest that they came from a common source
>> which can only be Campag themselves.
>>
>> Hilary Stone, Bristol