Re: [CR]Re: [R]questions: 753R Peugeot

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To: tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:27:16 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: [R]questions: 753R Peugeot
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>


Whatever they rode and whatever they thought, they were all of the same corporate parent and, as such, spoke volumes for the tube producing division. Don't forget, Jan LeGrand built many of those bikes. So were they Raleighs, Panasonics, or whathaveyou!? e-RICHIE On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:47:24 -0800 (PST) Tom Dalton <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com> writes:
> >PARALYSIS BY ANALYSIS. TOO MANY SLIDERULES,
> TOO FEW TRAINING RIDES.
>
> I'd speculate that the TI Raleigh and Panasonic
> Raleigh teams from c. 1980 onward, did put a few
> training rides on those 753 tubes. But they may have
> been on plain-gauge 501 with 753R stickers for all we
> know.
>
>
> --- Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com> wrote:
> > reply is in CAPS:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:00:49 -0800 (PST) Fred Rafael
> > Rednor
> > <fred_rednor@yahoo.com> writes:
> > > > 753 was a MATERIAL, not a tube set.
> > > Richard,
> > > That part I understood - but I thought that 753
> > was
> > > a harder material than 531, thus allowing the
> > thickness
> > > of the tube walls to be made thinner and lighter.
> > Is
> > > that not the case?
> > > IT WAS THE CASE
> > > > The lightest, thinnest 531 was similar
> > > > to its 753 counterpart.
> > > But wouldn't you prefer to use the 753 tubing for
> > larger
> > > frames due to its superior strength of the
> > material?
> > >I THOUGHT THE CONCEPT OF HIGH-ER STRENGTH
> > MATERIAL WAS MISPLACED. 531 WAS VERY STRONG;
> > USING LESS OF IT TO REDUCE FRAME WEIGHT WAS
> > NEVER AN ISSUE FOR ME. CHANGING THE COMPOSITION
> > AND MAKING THE NEW MATERIAL LESS WILLING TO
> > WITHSTAND ALL THE BENDING CYCLES TYPICAL
> > TO RACE BIKE USE WAS A LIABILITY.
> > > None of this is meant as a challenge - I'm trying
> > to understand
> > > the whole story and why Reynolds bothered to
> > develop 753.
> > >PARALYSIS BY ANALYSIS. TOO MANY SLIDERULES,
> > TOO FEW TRAINING RIDES.
> > > So, to get back to the original question, what
> > is 753R?
> > >THE LIGHTEST TUBE MIX OF ALL THE AVAILABLE
> > 753 PIPES WHEN SOLD AS A BOXED SET.
> > > Best regards,
> > > Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia
> > >REGARDS TO ALL
> > e-RICHIE at the breakfast table
> > (CAPS LOCK RUUUUUULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
> >
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