Re: [CR]Campagnolo SR Silver vs Black

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 20:31:24 -0800
From: "Chuck Schmidt" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo SR Silver vs Black
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Yes, the four hole "Record Front Changer" is shown in the 18 page Campagnolo catalog supplement that came out in 1979. Also the single bolt "Nuovo Super Record Seat Pin" is shown; the only part with the NSR tag that I know of.

Incidentally, the Campagnolo Timeline has just been updated and has the answers to most of the Campagnolo questions asked recently. It can be seen at

Again, I invite the members of the list to read over the Timeline and submit corrections or additions.

Chuck Schmidt South Pasadena, Southern California

Marc Boral wrote:
> That version you speak of was the first attempt at changing the old
> solid-cage Record. I think it was only around about a year at
> most. Educated guess here, but I think...'79? An exploded view picture
> can be seen in the '82 Olympic catalog. Interestingly, the photos of the
> complete derailleur show the 3 hole Record and Super Record. So I guess
> they got lazy and used an old photo for the exploded picture. Does anyone
> know if the 4 hole model is shown or made reference to in any of Campy's
> catalog Supplements? I kind of like the 4 hole cage. The narrow clamp is
> sort of scary. I think it might have been nice if Campy distinguished the
> Super Record from the Record by incorporating the black arms AND the 4 hole
> cage. Oh well, they probably had a good reason for not doing so. Can't
> blame that decision on Valantino :-)
> Marc Boral
> Long Beach, CA
> At 10:38 PM 12/5/2001 -0500, wrote:
> >Hi, Chuck,
> >
> >Speaking of Campy N/R front derailluers, all silver 3 hole cage vs. 4 hole
> >ones,
> >which one is older?
> >
> >Also, ones I have, I discover another difference at the front of "BAND". 4
> >hole one has narrow straight design while the 3 hole one has top/bottom
> >pointed like a sheild design as older record band,
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >KEN TODA, cool and dry, North Carolina evening