I had three of the Assos saddles that Chuck mentioned, two in suede, one smooth. I bought them in the mid-80's as reasonable substitute for a Unicanitor #3. I like them very much; all black, drilled ventilation/flexibility holes, the graphics are limited to an Assos"A" on either side and "Assos" on the back. I destroyed one on a mountain bike years ago- still have the others. I almost bought a pair of thier pedals, too , but the clipless thing came along and oh, well. Does Assos make components any more or just clothing? Branford Bike used to sell quite a few Assos rimmed wheels years ago.